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An apology to the CSM 7

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MEPH1ST0
Masonic Guard
#61 - 2012-03-30 16:01:42 UTC
Darius III wrote:
MEPH1ST0 wrote:
+1 to you issler for being the only one to speak your mind, and not wait to be coached into a responce behind closed doors. I take my hat off to you sir



Ummm, I think one other CSM was pretty vocal about the whole thing. Calling for Mittano to step down, writing an Eve News 24 article about it, etc etc


Yeah, sorry dude. What i was refering to (Or trying to, i suck at typing) was that he was the first one to speak up/out (That i noticed anyways). But yes, +1 to you also :)
Severian Carnifex
#62 - 2012-03-30 16:32:34 UTC
I love women with balls Big smile

You have my vote in the future too,
just keep our voices loud.
Gloomy Gus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#63 - 2012-03-30 16:38:42 UTC
You're a good sport Issler we goons may see you as a powerful thorn in our side, but there's plenty of respect over here on this side of the goon aisle for not only you but both of your supporters. Your valuable perspective is one we look to when forming decisions and larger scale policy

"DIE N***ERS1 DIE!!!" - EVENEWS24's Riverini "Gloomy Gus is literally a pocket" - Krixtal Icefluxor (former EVE Online player)
PleaseDONTblow Myship
Aggressive Feeding
#64 - 2012-03-30 16:51:55 UTC
EI Digin wrote:
Hailey Sunweaver wrote:
How ironic you timing is with your apology. I mean this is rubbing salt in the wound and you acting like your taking the high and moral ground. When in reality you tried to capitalize on the events at fan fest for your own personal advancement. I for one do not accept your apology. In my humble and personal opinion I think you should resign from the CSM. After all if your of high moral fiber this shouldn't be that difficult for you to do.


You may as well resign, Issler. Nobody is going to take you seriously after this stunt.



Issler i think that after this charade you should resing.
MEPH1ST0
Masonic Guard
#65 - 2012-03-30 17:11:59 UTC
PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote:
EI Digin wrote:
Hailey Sunweaver wrote:
How ironic you timing is with your apology. I mean this is rubbing salt in the wound and you acting like your taking the high and moral ground. When in reality you tried to capitalize on the events at fan fest for your own personal advancement. I for one do not accept your apology. In my humble and personal opinion I think you should resign from the CSM. After all if your of high moral fiber this shouldn't be that difficult for you to do.


You may as well resign, Issler. Nobody is going to take you seriously after this stunt.



Issler i think that after this charade you should resing.


What song should he sing ? I myself am quite partial to Dead or Alive / You spin me right round
Allataria
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#66 - 2012-03-30 17:35:58 UTC
I for one do not accept this apology. If the apology from Mittani was not good enough that neither should yours be. Resign now hypocrite.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#67 - 2012-03-30 18:35:23 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
(Offtopic)

Issler, here's an issue where it would be fine that you implied yourself... wardec changes suggested by CCP have a potential to effectively destroy hisec smallholders, miners the first of them.

The money quote:

CCP SoniClover wrote:
Q: How long will wars last?
A: As long as the aggressor pays every week and no one surrenders (or no surrender offer is accepted), then a war can last forever.


Essentially, they wardec you for 25 or 50 millions a week and there you go, forever war or become canon fodder to every last griefer in the game. Or bribe them to stop wardeccing you (such a briliant strategy).


This is a concern. I had a long talk with Alek where the war dec mechanism came up. He has some great ideas and I am sure you can expect to hear from him on the topic (as well as from me as I hope to work with him and any of the other CSM that wants to adress the issue) after we take office.

Wars need to achieve a goal in some reasonable time. I'm not sure that the changes we heard in the fanfest presentation are the precisely right way to get war mechanisms consistent with that idea.

But, yes, thanks for pointing it out. Good news is someone who seemed to have real insight into war mechanisms (Alek) is part of the CSM 7.

Issler
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#68 - 2012-03-30 18:37:23 UTC
knobber Jobbler wrote:


Issler,

You know Mittani received death threats? People even threatened to kill his dog. You encouraged that.

You also miss the point of being on the CSM; we don't care about your opinion on the matter, you're our representative at the stakeholders table, not our political leader.

Since you're full of morals, resigning shouldn't be a problem.

Oh, and see you in high sec in a few weeks, I've got a gift for you.




I have said and I will repeat it again.

LEAVE MITTANI ALONE IN RL!!!!!!!! Anyone that harasses him deserves to be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law!!!

Issler
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#69 - 2012-03-30 18:39:55 UTC
PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote:
EI Digin wrote:
Hailey Sunweaver wrote:
How ironic you timing is with your apology. I mean this is rubbing salt in the wound and you acting like your taking the high and moral ground. When in reality you tried to capitalize on the events at fan fest for your own personal advancement. I for one do not accept your apology. In my humble and personal opinion I think you should resign from the CSM. After all if your of high moral fiber this shouldn't be that difficult for you to do.


You may as well resign, Issler. Nobody is going to take you seriously after this stunt.



Issler i think that after this charade you should resing.


I love to resign!!! I am a karaoke ****! Get me near a microphone with some music and I can't stop myself! Big smile

Issler
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#70 - 2012-03-30 18:44:16 UTC
MEPH1ST0 wrote:
PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote:
EI Digin wrote:
Hailey Sunweaver wrote:
How ironic you timing is with your apology. I mean this is rubbing salt in the wound and you acting like your taking the high and moral ground. When in reality you tried to capitalize on the events at fan fest for your own personal advancement. I for one do not accept your apology. In my humble and personal opinion I think you should resign from the CSM. After all if your of high moral fiber this shouldn't be that difficult for you to do.


You may as well resign, Issler. Nobody is going to take you seriously after this stunt.



Issler i think that after this charade you should resing.


What song should he sing ? I myself am quite partial to Dead or Alive / You spin me right round


Hard to go wrong with "Stairway to Heaven" or "Smells Like Teen Spirit" although I really random with what I pick, for example I think last time I karaokied I sang "Roundabout".

My last band (which I was the primary vocalist for) did a lot of virtually unknown indie bands, before that I was pretty committed to 60's and 70's power pop.

My current project if I ever get time for it is an all female Refreshments tribute band. (the Tempe AZ one)

Issler
Loftybam
State War Academy
Caldari State
#71 - 2012-03-30 18:44:32 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote:
EI Digin wrote:
Hailey Sunweaver wrote:
How ironic you timing is with your apology. I mean this is rubbing salt in the wound and you acting like your taking the high and moral ground. When in reality you tried to capitalize on the events at fan fest for your own personal advancement. I for one do not accept your apology. In my humble and personal opinion I think you should resign from the CSM. After all if your of high moral fiber this shouldn't be that difficult for you to do.


You may as well resign, Issler. Nobody is going to take you seriously after this stunt.



Issler i think that after this charade you should resing.


I love to resign!!! Big smile

Issler


That is what I took from that, great way to kill your own making fun of peoples misspelling.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#72 - 2012-03-30 18:48:27 UTC
Loftybam wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote:
EI Digin wrote:
Hailey Sunweaver wrote:
How ironic you timing is with your apology. I mean this is rubbing salt in the wound and you acting like your taking the high and moral ground. When in reality you tried to capitalize on the events at fan fest for your own personal advancement. I for one do not accept your apology. In my humble and personal opinion I think you should resign from the CSM. After all if your of high moral fiber this shouldn't be that difficult for you to do.


You may as well resign, Issler. Nobody is going to take you seriously after this stunt.



Issler i think that after this charade you should resing.


I love to resign!!! Big smile

Issler


That is what I took from that, great way to kill your own making fun of peoples misspelling.


I don't think there is anything wrong with trying to lighten up a very negatively emotional thread on occasion. If you find my sense of humor not to your liking I apologize. I certainly make spelling errors and they've turned into to funny posts in response so this wasn't meant to make fun of anyone.

Issler
PleaseDONTblow Myship
Aggressive Feeding
#73 - 2012-03-30 18:51:32 UTC  |  Edited by: PleaseDONTblow Myship
Well,i made typo,its very very bad,and makes fact that you proven yourself useless,being not a politician or even team player,but attention whoring drama queen unvalid.
Sidus Sarmiang
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2012-03-30 18:58:36 UTC
knobber Jobbler wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
knobber Jobbler wrote:


I think you need to take an English lesson and stop being a high sec pub lord.

Issler thinks that CSM members are influential, if this is the case, doing what she did, she needs to take responsibility for her reactionary and divisive statement, and go.

Actually I'm in low-sec atm Big smile


Ok, fair play. I retract the high sec pub lord bit.



I'll throw in the low sec publord bit.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#75 - 2012-03-30 19:32:52 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
We wouldn't be calling his house and mocking him on his answering machine. We wouldn't be making threats against his life or his dog's. Issler probably hasn't done any of those things, but they are what Mittani has to actually deal with in real life because of the efforts of people like Issler and Darius blowing this situation massively out of proportion all for their own gain... in a video game!


Are you saying that the gaming media had nothing to do with blowing this issue out of proportion? I think you'll find that the gaming media had a far greater involvement in this issue than D3 or Issler, by a long shot. Are the people calling The Mittani's home even EVE players? Or are they random jerks who read something about The Mittani where his real name was mentioned, and just headed straight to the bat phone to harass him in person? I haven't heard anything from The Mittani about this yet, but my assumption is that the great majority of people who are harassing him by phone or email are not EVE players.

Tarsus Zateki wrote:
They can say whatever they like, while Mitanni isn't allowed to hit back.


Why isn't Mittani allowed to respond to criticism? The 30 day ban happened well after the actual events, and he took the time to respond to a number of threads during that period. I think you'll find that he did actually respond (or "hit back" in your terms), but you probably weren't paying attention because you were too busy foaming at the mouth and ranting rabidly all over the forums.

Please take the time to think about what you are posting, rather than vomiting bile all over the forums the moment someone says something you don't like.

Day 0 Advice for New Players
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#76 - 2012-03-30 19:40:15 UTC
knobber Jobbler wrote:
You know Mittani received death threats? People even threatened to kill his dog. You encouraged that.


The word for what you are doing is "hyperbole". The people that encouraged the harassment are those who misreported the facts, and those who accused the Mittani of giving out the victim's real name.

knobber Jobbler wrote:
You also miss the point of being on the CSM; we don't care about your opinion on the matter, you're our representative at the stakeholders table, not our political leader.


If you don't care for a candidate's opinion, why did you vote for them? Unless you're a goon, you'd be best represented when voting for someone whose opinions most match your own.

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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#77 - 2012-03-30 19:41:15 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
We wouldn't be calling his house and mocking him on his answering machine. We wouldn't be making threats against his life or his dog's. Issler probably hasn't done any of those things, but they are what Mittani has to actually deal with in real life because of the efforts of people like Issler and Darius blowing this situation massively out of proportion all for their own gain... in a video game!


Are you saying that the gaming media had nothing to do with blowing this issue out of proportion? I think you'll find that the gaming media had a far greater involvement in this issue than D3 or Issler, by a long shot. Are the people calling The Mittani's home even EVE players? Or are they random jerks who read something about The Mittani where his real name was mentioned, and just headed straight to the bat phone to harass him in person? I haven't heard anything from The Mittani about this yet, but my assumption is that the great majority of people who are harassing him by phone or email are not EVE players.

Tarsus Zateki wrote:
They can say whatever they like, while Mitanni isn't allowed to hit back.


Why isn't Mittani allowed to respond to criticism? The 30 day ban happened well after the actual events, and he took the time to respond to a number of threads during that period. I think you'll find that he did actually respond (or "hit back" in your terms), but you probably weren't paying attention because you were too busy foaming at the mouth and ranting rabidly all over the forums.

Please take the time to think about what you are posting, rather than vomiting bile all over the forums the moment someone says something you don't like.


Uh, he can't hit back cause the dude is banned. Banned accounts can't post on eve-o.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
None ofthe Above
#78 - 2012-03-30 19:44:13 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:


Uh, he can't hit back cause the dude is banned. Banned accounts can't post on eve-o.


He seems to be doing fine on twitter.

If he had anything really important to convey here I am sure that at least one of his at least 8000 friends would pass it along (or are passing it along, most likely).

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#79 - 2012-03-30 20:51:56 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Issler, I think you should unblock all the "trolls" you blocked during the campaigning before touting your "transparency". A lot of people have a lot to say and if you're not willing to listen then you definitely don't deserve a seat on the CSM.


I've unblocked you, I'll see how that goes, I do look at some of the blocked posts to see if the character of the posts improve from repetitious trolling and if the blocked poster are actually trying to communicate and not troll I will do the same for them.

Issler
Brisco County
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#80 - 2012-03-31 08:33:43 UTC
What should have been great publicity for CCP at fanfest, with what they've done with Eve and Dust, is being completely overshadowed by a couple of "journalists" looking to get more hits by character assassination and libel, and a couple of sycophants looking to secure their future in the CSM.

CCP is the real victim here, and it's truly disgusting how a few have stolen their thunder, thrown them under the bus, just to discredit a political enemy in a fantasy spaceship game, all while pretending that they give a **** about Eve.