EVE General Discussion

ToS/EULA will never be written in stone, there has to be room to cover any eventuality that may cross the line. But most of the ToS/EULA is based on common sense which is why most don't even bother to read all of it if at all. Plus the fact they don't seem to vary much from game to game.



If people RP out of game then unless they make it clear that is what they're doing they run the risk it will be taken seriously and if it is taken seriously then there's no way to prove that you were RPing as it can just be seen as an excuse (talking generally here, not about any specific case).



Even playing in-game, a lot of what would be seen as griefing in other games is not actually griefing in EVE because of the game mechanics (way the game was designed). But if you take things too far it could still be seen as cyber bullying regardless of the mechanics of the game.

It's mainly just common sense, if you think what you're doing is likely to be wrong, it probably is. You can't take fantasy into RL and expect to get away with it unless it has no negative effects on anyone else (fancy dress and other RP events that have no negative effects on people).

Yeah, he apologized to the family, and compensated them for the troubles he caused them with a monetary settlement, and they forgave him for making an ass of himself and all in all it ended pretty calmly and without incident. Seems familiar, at least up until the whole 'forgiveness, ended calmly' part.

Nope.

"What is the CSM?": "They are also expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow."
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM#Candidate_Eligibility

Whether that is applicable in the situation or not can be debated, but saying that there are no rules of conduct that apply to CSM but not other players is untrue.

Rules. Rules. EULA. TOS. He is banned for an EULA / TOS violation. There are players breaching the same rules on the forums. The rules apply equally to everyone.

Conduct is a separate issue.

Time to let this thread die out.
It's run its course.

Time we all go back to playing the game.
I hear there is going to be a big dance party in Jita toward the end of April.
Goons are hosting, grab a date and let's all go dance!

Hope to see you all there.

[edited for my bad typing]

looking forward to the day were you eat your words when you have tasted the bitterness of unnatural voluntary dead among your friends or family.

Everyone makes jokes, a lot of people make jokes at the expense of others, some even joke about suicide.

Most adults drink alcohol sometimes, a lot of adults get drunk sometimes, a lot of adults get drunk in public, not many (respected) elected representative get drunk in public.

I don't know, offhand, of any elected representative who has gotten drunk in public and proceeded to make jokes about someone commiting suicide (I am sure if you trawl you can find some).

In my opinion it says quite a bit about someone that they are willing to make such heinous suggestions about someone, especially when that person has expressed their possible vulnerabilities to a poor emotional state. Regardless of the person's reaction the comment was unacceptable, as CCP have shown by imposing a ban.

Alex Gianturco has made a greivous error, he admits that much himself and he as a player has been punished by not being allowed to play Eve Online with that account for 30 days. The Mittani was also on that stage and was making those comments as an aspect of Alex Gianturco, is The Mittani representing his constituents when he holds such contempt for at least one of them that he would joke about their death?

This is my first post, I felt so strongly on reading about what Alex/Mittens said that I had to put forward my two cents. Please think before voting in the future.

Zoo Ologist, your violation of the Eve Online Terms of Service requires that I petition for your account to be banned. I expect CCP to take firm measures to protect The Mittani's personal information and make examples of every individual who violates the Terms of Service, regardless of intent.

"19. You may not communicate, post or publicize any subscriber’s personal information within the EVE Online game world or website."

Damnit beat me to it.