Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Battlecriuser Tiericide
Tier 1 Battlecruisers are amongst some of the least used ships in the game. Thoroughly outclassed by their tier 2 counterparts, although the costing significantly less, in Eve roles and performance are the deciding factors determining ship usage.
- Battlecriusers effectively become tier 2 in performance - requiring the level 1 skill to be trained with Hitpoints, Sensor strength, slot numbers, cost and in some cases fittings normalised.


And Finally…

Roden
Because split weapons are bad...
- Missile Hardpoints increased on Eris by 2, Lachesis increased by 1
- Eris loses a highslot in exchange for a mid (Ares style), receives more cpu
- See "Combat: Blasters" for changes to the Phobos.


There's a strong sense of synergy with each of the changes, from assault warfare links, to the rig changes, each of the suggestions tries to complement Gallente piloting play style. This list of change is also one that tries not to shy away from any of the existentialist issues affecting the game. I make no apologies for it as I doubt most would be satisfied until those changes were in place.



New updates 13/10/11

~~~New Updates based on Eve-O feedback.~~~


Caldari Lovin:
Caldari base speed increases significantly. Caldari hybrid ships, especially the cruisers are just to slow to be viable and often whilst existential issues really effect the performance of the Ferox and it's variants.
~30% increase to base speed, for:
- Moa, Ferox, Vulture, Rokh, Egale, Cormorant (Whilst the Tengu's Hybrid Weapons subsystem should increase speed by a similar amount).
- Moa and Eagle powergrid increased by 30%
- Moa and Eagle hull re-designed to look less ****.
- See Tiericide for additional changes to the Ferox
- See Fleet Commandships for additional changes to the Vulture
- Combat Blasters for additional changes to Hybrids.




Combat: Rails
Here, ranged warfare is boosted by various changes to targeting and probing whilst changes to ammo mean damage attenuates far less at range (far out damaging competitors at ultra long ranges).
At medium range, the optimal range increase means the envelope antimatter can be used in is greater whilst Javelin now provides improved tracking in return for much increased capacitor usage and slightly reduced dps.

Railguns:
Railguns now do more damage, and much more damage at longer ranges. True to the RP nature of what most of us consider railguns to be like, ultra high muzzle velocity means, damage attenuates much less at long to ultra long range.

This picture should help explain the changes: http://www.theskyunion.com/railguns.jpg



Ammo:
Railgun base damage increased by 10%

Spike base damage increased by 25%

Tech 2 Ammo now receives short range variants that alter the behaviour of the turrets (beyond additional dps, or range) either compensating for short falls or improving strengths of the turrets in very different ways.
- Quake - 25% increase to Artillery alpha, 5% Less damage than RF EMP and 33% less range and fall off.
- Gleam - Increases damage - 15% more damage than Navy Multifreqency and 33% less tracking and 33% less optimal range.
- Javelin - Increases tracking by 50% - 5% Less damage than CN Antimatter and 50% increased capacitor usage.

Hybrid Ammo receives reorganisation into 4 parts:
Antimatter remains unchanged
Iron base damage increased by 20%

Plutonium - (Same as current plutonium except: ), 20% Kinetic, 80% Thermal damage
Uranium - -(Same as current plutonium except: ), 80% Kinetic, 20% Thermal damage

Thorium - (Same as current thorium except: ) 0% increase to optimal, 20% increase to tracking, 80% Kinetic, 20% Thermal
Lead - (Same as current thorium except: ) 0% increase to optimal, 20% increase to tracking, 20% Kinetic, 80% Thermal damage

Iridium - (Same as current thorium except: ) 0% increase to optimal, 20% increase to falloff, 80% Kinetic, 20% Thermal
Tungsten - (Same as current thorium except: ) 0% increase to optimal, 20% increase to falloff, 20% Kinetic, 80% Thermal damage



Global:
- Probing accuracy is now inversely proportional to the amount of time the target has been in one location (grid)" (After 0 seconds, within 200km accuracy, after 30 seconds, 50km accuracy, after one minute, probing accuracy improves to 12km and so on)
- Max Targeting Range is now 350km

I don't necessarily agree with all your fixes but the overall concept is sound.

Very impressive stuff, unfortunately I don't have the experience to know whether it would work out well or not

At least I can provide a bump for more reads

I hope the actual fix works as I'd like to fly Gallente eventually.

Who knows, it may even come along at the same time as the 'Morpheus' battleship!

My main is still waiting for the Tornado - hope they do it justice

Would be interesting to get the maker of EFT to put in a "customize hull" mode to see how your numbers work in the big picture.

It is worth pointing out to people... take a look at the 1-year price history of the tier 1 battlecruisers and compare it to absolutely anything else in the game. The price has been flatlined forever. Even fluctuations in the mineral markets and the value of isk have not affected the price of the brutix. Something needs to be updated.

There's a complicated way of doing it using some hack that lets you modify XML. It wont let you modify modules though.

Would be cool if there was an easier way of doing it.

And yeah, the tier 1 battlecruisers a currently languishing in the furthest reaches of the games crevices.

Instead of buffing gallente to laser/projectile standards (and thus making everything overpowered and losing it's niche) I'd much rather have a slight boost to Gallante but nerf pulse/scorch range+damage, and take care of the huge falloff and easy damage selection of projectiles. Those are just too good making it too easy, instead of making everything easy (and turning this game into an FPS) I'd much rather have them toned down a little bit back into their own niches.

"everything more, always more" is a very bad way to balance.

Oh, and I keep pushing this idea... there should be all three sizes of sentry drones, and they all should be able to move with the controlling ship. The turrets could handle less of a buff if the drones were able to fill in the gaps better.

The cliffnotes for the TL:DR crowd. - As to be expected, for detail and reasoning, check out the OP.


Blasters: tracking increased roughly by 50%, DPS by 10%

Blasterships have their Power grid, speed, agility and drone bay improved.




Targeting distance increases from 250km to 300km- Warp to distance increases from 150km to 200km

It becomes harder to warp to 0km, when there are more ships on grid.

Railguns: Optimal range increased by 33%.




Racial (Gallente and Minmatar) Active tanking bonus changed from 7.5% per level to 10%.

The overloaded bonus on active tanking modules now includes a bonus to Shield or Armour resistances

Rigs: Armour Rig penalties changed from speed to agility

Capacitor Batteries: Now reserve of capacitor that cannot be affected by energy warfare





Sentry Drones: Top speed now increased to 200m/s

Myrmidon: Loses 2 turret hardpoints, gains 50mb in drone bandwidth

Eos: Becomes Field Commandship, gaining 50mb in drone bandwidth and turret falloff bonus.

The Astarte and Claymore have their tanking bonuses changed to HP bonuses whilst Vultures optimal range bonus becomes a HP bonus

Assault Warfare Link’s: reduces the heat damage sustained by overloaded modules, Increases the tracking speed or turrets or Increases ships capacitor size.




Battlecriusers effectively become tier 2 in performance whilst, the Eris loses a highslot in exchange for a mid (Ares style), receives more cpu

Bump.