Warfare & Tactics

I've tried very hard to deduce from this well-written article that something is terribly wrong. What I saw was a bitter, "They didn't fight the way we wanted or expected" post.

In fact, I saw this whole post as nothing more than a personal blog post crying for some clicks. Do we REALLY need to bring these bitter and personal rants into this public forum?

Really. It's Eve. If no rules were broken, how people fight/not fight etc. is all part of the game. And more besides, war is not and never was "honorable".

"He who wins, wins."
The Apostle circa 2011

My advice, since empire antics seems not for you, take your crew into 0.0 for awhile. No war decs are neccessary so there's no costs involved. Goodfights are guaranteed.

Blog about THAT and I'll be happy to read all about 'em.

BS.…that is pretty much as declarative as it gets.If it is suddenly no longer prohibited to use alt corps to increase the cost of wars against your corporation, then they have changed their policy.

I'm still annoyed that EVE Uni has no provisions or policies in place regarding people who are Hearing Impaired and therefore unable to participate in said 'live' classes. I'd appreciate it if you could talk to me about that sometime.

As the writer of one of the blog posts linked in this thread (HI MOM!), I'd like to just state that while Uni pulling the dec was a knee-jerk reaction, it was a suitable one. I fully agree with Poetic that it was a bit of a "oh **** what have we done pull the plug" kind of thing, but I can hardly blame Uni for it. A lot of corps would have done similar things and Uni simply had poor intel on the current ongoings and reacted appropriately, as Kelduum stated at the bottom of the first page of this thread.

RvB and Adopt are both at fault too in that our expectations for a massive fleet brawl once the POS came out of reinforced were simply not conveyed to Uni in any way. Naturally, it's often a "bad move" to inform your enemy that you're planning something, so I think this is a bit of a "meh" issue.

Now, if we look at the other situations addressed in Poetics post we encounter the "Uni never going to RvB/Adopt" issue. I've semi-raged about this in my blog post linked further up in the thread and while I don't agree with the move (or lack thereof) what they did was reasonable considering the number of corporations at war with them. I'm not happy about it, but that doesn't make it less reasonable.

If anyone is looking for further reading into discussions surrounding the POS Bash night, RvB and Uni members have been talking here on the EVE Uni forums and, afaik, butthurt has been (mostly) resolved.

Was what Uni did "right"? In my opinion no, but their reasons and intentions were sound. Limited intel will never produce good results and this was such a case.

tl;dr I am pretty pissed that Uni did what they did, but I can now see the reasons behind it.

I will say that this whole week has given me some very interesting reading and that I really need to buy more popcorn for browsing forums.

The RvB leadership involved with the POS Bash were never informed that the POS was off limits. In fact it was our understanding it was put into DIckstar mode precisely because it was still fair game.

Of course. :) It's up to you to decide who's propaganda is closer to the truth. With respect to decshields, for instance, a number of people besides me, have already pointed out that Kel has been spinning complete b.s.,

EVE University is fascinating. I like pointing out their hypocrisy. I did it while I was a member and I do it while I'm not. My writing on EVE University has not changed much (the tone has become a tad more aggressive, perhaps.)

This topic has been moved to Eve-Uni forums.

Do it. Regardless of the details of this case, it's been needed for… oh… roughly forever or so.

There were no misquotes in that story, it was entirely made-up information. Whereas I'm actually quoting from your forums and Twitter.

Personally, I would expect Eve-Uni to have good comms with CCP. They do a great job of getting noobs into game and learning about it, they have a pretty decent wiki for anyone to use and they are run as a fairly professional outfit. Notwithstanding the time they have been around.

I also note the statement that "the decshield speech" is given "when a player asks"... Seems fair to me. That's usually the best time to talk.

And one thing for sure, "decshield" would be of benefit somewhat to Eve-Uni. Not to cost the enemy so much as it prevents 2-bit, 3 player corps from wasting everyone's time with mindless war-decs. Eve-Uni has a job to do.


My advice son. Move on. You will grow much stronger for this.