Jita Park Speakers Corner

Took credit for the incarna revolt after originally backstabbing the players. I like how they liked incarna at first.

Then took credit for CCP changing policy when it was the mass unsubs that did it.

They stole the players victory and stamped it with their name.

Looking at mitten particular.

I think it can be summed up like this:
People STILL don't get what the position of the CSM is in relation to the development process.
the CSM does not have veto power, cannot demand that x y or z changes be made to the game, and so on. All the CSM candidates who have promised or even talked about making changes to the game are either lying to you or deluded about what the CSM does.
Essentially the CSM is a way for CCP to interact with people who play the game. In the past 0.0 was badly represented on the CSM, which resulted in lots of *badthings* happening to nulsec, not out of malice but because no one from nulsec was there to say "HEY CCP THIS IS A BAD IDEA!"
When The Mittani came in he made some organizational changes to the CSM (and also used the bloc voting power of the CFC to get elected as well...) that made it much more effective in terms of internal CSM communication and CSM<->CCP communication, things that are semi no brainers like having a 24/7 chat channel so people can discuss things whenever and NOT just at summits in Iceland.
However since the level of communication has increased, any change that certain entities don't like gets blamed on the Mittani (not the CSM as a whole, who *sometimes* get to discuss changes with CCP, and not CCP who MAKE the changes). See the Titian Nerf. The most that the CSM had to do with that was saying "Hey CCP, titians are broken. Think you could fix them?" to which CCP replied "Hey we were thinking the same thing. What do you think about this...?"
Whats really funny is that when major changes to the game AREN'T discussed with the CSM (see skill changes and racial BC/Destroyer skills) everyone gets all huffy about it.
TL:DR - It Wasn't.

What does this mean? This seems like an awfully vague and incendiary post.

Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it off topic.

Well explain it to me man, that's what this thread is for. I don't want to have to go read some terrorists manifesto because you think it has bearing on a video game focus group.

Not at all, had you bothered to follow the election campaign you would have seen the question come up and be answered with contencious opinions and claims from several stances. As such my comment was a cynical remark to the fact that this has been discussed several times and it is insulting to some players to see it repeated over and over again. Especially when the CSM forum can provide these viewpoints.

But to answer personally with my own opinion, YET AGAIN, I don't think bad of the CSM6 at all, so therefore I consider your question to be loaded. I did not like some of the unsubstatiated claims made by a now absent chairman regarding his so called influence or the methodology of the applied politics with a derisory selfish focus. As such I wont tarnish the whole of CSM6 at all.

Otherwise go read all the various threads with regards to the CSM7 pre-election material.

btw: Elections have ended. Mittens ****** up. Have to wait till next year, though no certainty he will be allowed to stand, nor that he may be interested as he has decided to just wear one tin foil hat by his own reckoning. Which I suppose is handy seeing as he can't wear the so called crown he wanted.

Hope this answers your need to prattle.

Lapine, it's my opinion that CSM6 did a great job. Yes, Mittens is ~important~ and whatever, but there are unsung heroes of CSM6 as well. This is why a majority of them are now serving a second (nth?) term.

...Except Mittens because CCP has a marketing image to uphold in front of Sony/Nvidia/::lolgamingmedia::

forum ate first draft
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_process


So, in context of the CSM6 furor, the outrage has nothing to do with the performance of the individuals comprising CSM6 and everything to do with the eve-o activists' psychological need to feel in control of themselves, and to achieve this feeling by exerting control over others (being unable to do so using more direct methods). In Kaczynski's manifesto the 'power process' was the driving force between increasing 'social engineering' and oppressive bureaucracy - countless individuals in pursuit of a psychological self-affirmation in a post-survival world. In EVE it's a pack of diehard anti-CSM moaners and protestors driven by strongly felt yet poorly reasoned justifications.

EVE is a great game in that genuinely felt class divides and virtual psychological disorders can develop in a virtual community.

EVE is a social game, possibly the most socially complex MMO in existence due to its single-sharded nature, and much like real society people are attempting to exert social power/"metagame" over others not out of any genuine attempt to improve society but instead to address a deep psychological need to affirm their self-worth.

In fact if you think about it, EVE's entire thing is about hooking in customers with the promise of crapping all over some other scrub for no other reason then it feels good. \

Actually, The Mittani himself wrote an interesting TTH bloc on his observations on this phenomena: http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/spymaster/65