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Ryunaga
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4541 - 2012-03-30 05:09:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Ryunaga
People say The Mittani went too far by exposing someone's character name but this is all pretend outrage intended to exploit an opportunity. How often do you see these same people crap post or not complain about someone else doing exactly this on the forums or elsewhere? (Exactly)

Lets face it, there is a bunch of people here upset that The Mittani is chairman of the CSM again and would like any excuse to have him out of it. Suicide ganking and shooting miners are obviously valid game mechanics that CCP condones so having fake outrage like it is a violation of the rules doesn't apply here.
Serene Muerta
Doomheim
#4542 - 2012-03-30 05:37:49 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Spitfire
Please keep it civil. Spitfire
Serene Muerta
Doomheim
#4543 - 2012-03-30 06:08:52 UTC
Ryunaga wrote:
The Mittani went too far. Same people doing exactly this on the forums or elsewhere?

The Mittani is chairman of the CSM


See the difference?
Lenrir Andven
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4544 - 2012-03-30 06:13:29 UTC
War Bear wrote:
Goons and the like are angry that their votes went up in smoke, their leader bowed out of the CSM and there's a 30 day ban in place.

On the other side of the coin people are angry Mittens will still be in the game, that he went too far and isn't honestly sorry.

I say CCP handled it just fine. Both sides are p!ssed off which means a middle ground has been reached. Straight


That's why I'm bemused about what is going on. Majority of the goons are slowly growing content to the current situation. Since after all, we recieved our orders and now have a goal to work towards (it's been really slow before the announcement.) The vote thing is a bit of a grey issue and I already spoken to a few neutrals on that issue, who all say 'well, it could of been dealt with better, maybe add a 'second choice' next time.'
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4545 - 2012-03-30 06:38:17 UTC
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-lee-settlement-20120329,0,7063902.story

But how was spike lee supposed to know people would take his twitter seriously. It was on just a twitter post. Why would people have to flee their home in fear over that.


Notice how Spike lee got sued and had to face the music for his irresponsible actions that put people at risk.


Just some food for thought.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
nicky Tsurpalen
UNA SALUS VICTUS
#4546 - 2012-03-30 06:59:17 UTC
Quote:
A hero is someone we can admire without apology.

Kitty Kelley
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#4547 - 2012-03-30 07:28:31 UTC
plz talk more about EULA and TOS when talking about trying make someone suicide.it really has to be written down there to know that its wrong thing to do, because thats just a normal thing badass spaceship captains do, right?



shar'ra phone home
ivar R'dhak
Deus est Mechanicus
#4548 - 2012-03-30 07:29:52 UTC  |  Edited by: ivar R'dhak
Lenrir Andven
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4549 - 2012-03-30 07:40:54 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-lee-settlement-20120329,0,7063902.story

But how was spike lee supposed to know people would take his twitter seriously. It was on just a twitter post. Why would people have to flee their home in fear over that.


Notice how Spike lee got sued and had to face the music for his irresponsible actions that put people at risk.


Just some food for thought.


Got a fetish for mittani? Geez you're special.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#4550 - 2012-03-30 07:44:39 UTC
Derek Chambers wrote:
Do people actually think he wanted the kid to really kill himself? Idiots...

No they don't.

Next question?
luZk
Fivrelde Corp
#4551 - 2012-03-30 08:10:51 UTC
Okay so he messed up and he got his 30 day ban, time to forgive and forget? Move on.. seriously . . .

http://i.imgur.com/1dl4DM6.jpg
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#4552 - 2012-03-30 08:26:43 UTC
Derek Chambers wrote:
Do people actually think he wanted the kid to really kill himself? Idiots...


No, but does it matter at all why he said it? Fact is, he did and the result could have been the same.

also he asked others to do it, wich puts an element out of his control into it. He must have known that little Fanboys like you would follow his advice without thinking.

shar'ra phone home
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#4553 - 2012-03-30 08:30:48 UTC
Lenrir Andven wrote:

That's why I'm bemused about what is going on. Majority of the goons are slowly growing content to the current situation. Since after all, we recieved our orders and now have a goal to work towards (it's been really slow before the announcement.) The vote thing is a bit of a grey issue and I already spoken to a few neutrals on that issue, who all say 'well, it could of been dealt with better, maybe add a 'second choice' next time.'

I think the vote thing was handled just fine. People who voted for The Mittani knew (or should have known) that he was a guy who often berated his opponents and did not spare words or effort in "harvesting tears". A lot of them have also expressed the opinion that what his slides spoke of was "part of the game" and what is expected of the alliance panel. The rules about what is expected of a CSM representative are public. It is not that the voters can claim that they had no idea that Mittani was like this, or that CCP somehow made him like this.

You voted for an arrogant person who is known for harvesting for tears and encouraging other players to go after particular individuals. You cannot now claim you have to get your vote back, because you are surprised for him having done exactly that. Sure, you did not foresee him doing it on stage or CCP actually caring... But that is not the vote system's or CCP's fault.

Maybe next time vote for someone who has a reputation as being able to act like what is expected from a CSM member?
Vila eNorvic
#4554 - 2012-03-30 08:34:18 UTC
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
plz talk more about EULA and TOS when talking about trying make someone suicide.it really has to be written down there to know that its wrong thing to do, because thats just a normal thing badass spaceship captains do, right?

WHAT????? Are you serious? If so, you have a severely messed-up mind.

It should be self-evident that trying to induce someone to commit suicide is is just plain WRONG at any time, any place and in any conceivable circumstances.

Jeez, what a dunce!
Ai Shun
#4555 - 2012-03-30 08:47:31 UTC
Serene Muerta wrote:
Ryunaga wrote:
The Mittani went too far. Same people doing exactly this on the forums or elsewhere?

The Mittani is chairman of the CSM


See the difference?


No. The same rules apply to all players in EVE Online. No matter if they are on the CSM or not. Thus no member of the CSM can or should be held to a higher standard in their play of EVE Online than any other player.
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
Doomheim
#4556 - 2012-03-30 08:50:53 UTC
bumpimg for lols

Standing in for Karn Dulake who was banned for saying bad words
Ai Shun
#4557 - 2012-03-30 08:53:28 UTC
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
Maybe next time vote for someone who has a reputation as being able to act like what is expected from a CSM member?


Barring this incident the Mittani has been one of the best members of the CSM to date. To give you an idea:

Two Step wrote:
I don’t think this decision is the best one for the game, but it is Mitten’s decision to make, and I support him 100%. What he is doing is what he thinks is best for the game as a whole, which is what he has been doing during the entire CSM 6 term.


Trebor Daehdroow wrote:
I have watched Alex wrestle with this decision over the past few days, and I hope I have been helpful in some small way as he came to it.
It’s the right decision for him, the community, the CSM, and our friends at CCP.
I look forward to serving with Alex on CSM7.


Seleene wrote:
This has been a difficult few days and Alex did not make this decision lightly. The next CSM has a lot of work ahead of it now. Mittens has helped shape the CSM into it’s current form and I’ve no doubt he will help where he can as he always has. I am glad that he has taken this step so that we can all move forward to doing what the community elected us to do.


Elise Randolph wrote:
A new hat: Mittani the altruist.
While the CSM did not ask for this action, I do respect and support it. From my perspective, which is not infallible but quite keen, Alex was the most successful CSM chair in that he helped usher in a new era of the CSM where the rigid bureaucratic processes were thrown aside to streamline the process and allow all voices to be equally as significant. A solid change that has borne fruit in what has been an incredibly effective CSM term. As a member of CSM 6, I have nothing but good things to say about how useful and effective Mittani was. I have no doubts that Alex will continue to work hard as a CSM 7 member and I look forward to working with him in the coming year


(Thanks Liang for compiling the list)

These are some of the comments from the people who worked with him on EVE Online for a year. Not the people who only saw The Mittani, leader of the Goonswarm.

He made a mistake. Don't take away what he has achieved and worked hard for just because of that.
Kehro Urgus
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4558 - 2012-03-30 09:00:34 UTC
They need to add an emoticon that's playing a violin.

Yeeee! 
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#4559 - 2012-03-30 09:01:43 UTC
Why are people apologising for The Martini?

Ingredients

1 ounce dry vermouth
4 ounces gin

Glass Type

Cocktail glass

Instructions

Fill a metal shaker with cracked ice. Pour in the dry vermouth, stir briefly, and strain out (this may be discarded). Add 4 ounces gin -- you want it around 94-proof. Stir briskly for about 10 seconds, strain into chilled cocktail glass, and garnish with an olive.

What the heck is there to apologise for you ******* heathens?
Ai Shun
#4560 - 2012-03-30 09:05:00 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
Why are people apologising for The Martini?

Ingredients

1 ounce dry vermouth
4 ounces gin

Glass Type

Cocktail glass

Instructions

Fill a metal shaker with cracked ice. Pour in the dry vermouth, stir briefly, and strain out (this may be discarded). Add 4 ounces gin -- you want it around 94-proof. Stir briskly for about 10 seconds, strain into chilled cocktail glass, and garnish with an olive.

What the heck is there to apologise for you ******* heathens?


Shaken, not stirred.