Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I've recently been reading a book called Castles of Steel, which deals with naval warfare during WW1. Its a fantastic book, and the descriptions of the battles such as Coronel and the Falklands are really very detailed. However the text also makes it very clear how quickly things can go awry and FC's can lose control of parts of their fleets for any one of a number of reasons.

Anyway it got me thinking about combat in EVE, and it seems to me that in many cases combat - especially fleet combat - is entirely too predictable, as pretty much everything happens that way it should - jump into a system, lock up the reds, and fire away (at least in an ideal situation lol).

So maybe:

- Things such as asteroid belts can affect the functionality of sensors so that they can be used as hiding places (of course that means you could use them to ambush from);
- Nebulas in solar systems can interefere with comms so that random players lose contact with the FC;
- Fleet composition can be affected by th reputation of an FC (not security status - rep would need a new leadership skill introduced);
- FC's rep would be affected by how successful he is - excessive losses reduce his rep, minimal losses or a major win for his fleet increases his rep;
- Ships crews have to be trained (again a new skill would be needed);

Maybe there are some other things that could be introduced as well - anyone have any ideas?

i know this is likely to get blown apart (pun intended) by those players who like their instant pew pew, but I just feel that a game as mature as EVE can be a bit more immersive.

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Why? What does any of this do to make combat more fun?

What does an FC's rep have to do with anything at all? How would this work with alts, or people who are just starting to FC?

You do realise every fleet uses out of game comms, right? You can't interfere with that.

Define a win? Most ships killed? Least losses? Strategic objectives? k/d ratio? most blues shot?

Expand on your crews idea, explain why it would be good, why it would be needed, and why it wouldn't encourage people to avoid PVP?



Actually, explain why this entire idea wouldn't serve to discourage PVP. With both ship crews and FC's ability to lead fleets on the line, why would anyone undock if they aren't 100% certain of victory?

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- Things such as asteroid belts can affect the functionality of sensors so that they can be used as hiding places (of course that means you could use them to ambush from)
- Nebulas in solar systems can interefere with comms so that random players lose contact with the FC
- Fleet composition can be affected by th reputation of an FC (not security status - rep would need a new leadership skill introduced)
- FC's rep would be affected by how successful he is - excessive losses reduce his rep, minimal losses or a major win for his fleet increases his rep
- Ships crews have to be trained (again a new skill would be needed)
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cloaked/covert cyno recon gangs, or other hotdrop

graphical loads cause players to dro

skill of fc (wing command+fleet command)
player knowledge of alliance/corp f

t3 skill retrainin


Eves fog of war is not knowing what the enemy has in their pocket, often its nothing, but sometimes its PL's supercap fleet, 400 tengu fleet, or whatever. metagamers (spys) can break this fog, but thats always been true of any conflict.

Implimenting a game fog of war idea usually means that someone will find an out of game way to break it, or it will be considered unfair by those on the receiving end, and everyone will be on the receiving end at least once.

What Malik8 said. The terrain here is between star systems. If your opponent has massive reinforcements in the next system over and you miss that you can expect what looked like an easy battle to go pear shaped in a hurry.

think some of these would have some merit tbh and it would set the field for more complex battles for wars and fleet ops ide think some of these ideas would be fun.

however intruducing new skills no and rep for an fc i would have to say no to also just because there is far to many factors that a guy might really be a good fc but takes on bigger fight and makes losses ect.

You obv have never played warhammer 40k lol 40,000 yrs into the future and thay can barely keep ther **** working

There is a fog of war:

If you don't have scouts in neighboring systems, you're blind to any approaching reinforcements.

If you don't have scanners active in system, you don't know the composition of off-grid elements.

Cloaking even further muddles intel with the ability of a bomber/recon wing to appear out of nowhere.

edit: once again, ship crews are a bad idea. They'd be just another module to fit on your ship and play min/max with. We have implants, rigs, modules, and subsystems. That's enough.