EVE New Citizens Q&A

Okay, here's the deal. I've recently gotten a bit tired of the same old mission-running and mining all the time, so I decided to try something new: The crime-side of EVE. However, the CEO in my main's corp won't allow me to tarnish their reputation (nor did I want to), so I decided to make a trial-account and try out crime, theft and ganking here. So far, I've only had one kill in my 2 days.

Earlier today, I did a bit of flying around, trying to get some easy kills in my crap-fitted Thrasher, so I flew out to some of the nearby asteroid belts, hoping for the best. First victim I ran into, was a relatively new (25 days or so) pilot mining in a Thrasher (seriously, he had 4 mining lasers, 2 beam lasers and a 150mm Autocannon equipped on the poor ship...). To make it better, the oblivious miner was jet-can mining, while for some reason being semi-AFK, thus giving me the perfect chance to go steal some of his ore. However, before I got into range to do anything, a small Angel frigate showed up in the belt. I just ignored them, just to see if he would react or not, and boy, did he react. His first reaction was to fire his lasers at his active target: the asteroid. He kept firing a few times, until he'd shot 5 or 6 times, before noticing and actually attacking the Angel frigate. He could barely get it down to about 50% shield, by the time I was within range to steal a bit of ore. Then kill-steal the frigate because the humiliation would be too much punishment even for the Angel Cartel.

I managed to get away with 6 whole cargoholds full, before he actually noticed and went to go fetch his Wreathe to haul it back to the station (at this point, I hadn't considered just flipping his can to save his poor Thrasher). After he went back to the station, I considered actually selling him back the ore I stole, but nah... He probably didn't need those 2400m3 worth of Azure Plagioclase anyway... I know I didn't. So I sold them and got myself a bit of ISK.

But by now I was still getting impatient, really. I wanted to go out and kill something... preferably something piloted by ignorant pilots, who shouldn't have the skills to fly their ships in the first place... So I went to the neighboring system, and had an encounter with a little ship (I can't remember which one it was now. He was mining in it, that's all I care about). I approached carefully, hoping not to draw too much attention to myself, but he saw me and retreated in his little ship. In the meantime, I went ahead and flipped his can, so by the time he returned in his Wreathe to pick up his ore... It was all mine . As it turns out, he didn't know enough about the aggression mechanics, so he obliviously went ahead and took some ore from my can. By this time, I'd already prepared for this, so the moment he took the rocks, I ctrl-clicked his ship and seconds later, got him locked, webbed and warp scrambled. Now, I could offer to let him go in exchange for half a million ISK (the Wreathe is only worth 250.000 ISK and it's cargo, hardly worth more), but I really, really, REALLY wanted to kill something now, so I just went ahead and shot the ship.

Now, before my trial runs out, I'd really like to have a lot more of those situations, where I am in charge of a ship's future, but I'm not sure what kind of ships I'd be able to can-flip and steal from. I'd prefer if possible, to learn the art of ransoming, so I can earn a bit of ISK for a PLEX before my trial runs out (at this moment I have 11 days left), but I don't know who I can get away with stealing from... So I ask for some help from professional gankers. At the moment I don't have the ISK nor skills to suicide gank anything, so I'd rather not try that just yet. What suggestions do you skilled pirates have? (And please forgive my rant, I was just so happy about my first criminal activities, that I wanted to share the story with someone. I didn't have any convos open with my victims though... not this time.)

Note: At the moment of writing, I only have 1.4mil ISK available, and I'd like to get a bit of other people's...

Nice little writeup, but yeah, there is no way in hell your going to make enough for a PLEX in 11 days on a trial by can flipping.

Yes, it's possible, but it depends own what you fly, how you fitted it and how they fitted their ship. And keep in mind a lot of people know the aggression mechanics and don't bother shooting you if you flip their wrecks/cans. They just laugh at you by thinking they will shoot you and ignore you and go on with minding their own business. Most likely because they don't really care if someone takes a bit of loot (I know some people who take all really important loot as soon as it drops, leave the rest to be collected later if nobody else already stole it).

or you know you could use one of your three slots on your main account for piracy. Just pause your mains training for a month or two, and you'll have an alt capable of scanning down mission runners, suicide ice miners, can flipping, and other pirate activities.

If your CEO has your API I'd change it so he doesn't see your evil designs.

Yopp

Dude,

I could actually go ahead and answer your question, but I instead have one for you.

Given you've taken all this effort in posting this (and you have clearly had fun) have you not considered turning your main over to a life of criminality?

What you're currently doing has no security status implications, so it's easy to afford replacement frigs and dessies (or what have you).

Yes, I know, you like the guys you've met in your highsec mission and mining corp. But, trust me, you'll like people you meet in other areas of the game and if you're starting down this path you ~will outgrow~ your current corp very quickly.

How will you feel when you're buzzed at killing a Hurricane, and your "corpies" are emo raging about how people shouldn't be allowed to shoot each other in highsec?

Think it over.

Oh, and tell your CEO the only "reputation" he has is as a carebear. He has **** all to lose. Really.

Yeah, turning one of my mains over to piracy has been tempting on several occasions, but I've refrained from doing so because I like the company in the corp. If I were to go pirate, I'd be kicked from the corp, and lose access to lots of free stuff the corp provides (AKA free frigates and all types of T1 ammo I will ever need/want and a few free T1 mods). And besides, the company in the corp is good enough to make me want to stay, and they (surprisingly enough for carebears) don't whine when getting ganked by others.

If I were to go pirate, I probably wouldn't last long without a dedicated pirate-corp, and as far as I know, they demand that you're always on voice-comms... which is my first entrance-barrier. I don't have access to voice-comms (I have a mic, but not any voice-comms software), so even if I were to become a pirate, I'd have to roam around in high-sec solo, without logistics support available, without a dedicated tackler to hold victims in place and any other kind of support I'll eventually need when it comes to taking on big targets, so that's another barrier to overcome (of course, I could start a solo corp and just roam around anyhow, but that'd be getting boring in the long run)...

On the other hand, the CEO in my mains' corp seems to suffer from delusions of grandor (however it's spelled). He wants too much, too fast but has no practical means of accomplishing anything. And the leadership structure also seems to be a bit iffy at times. It's pretty much every man for himself unless someone else plans a corp-activity a few days ahead of time. And at the rate we're doing things in my mains' corp... well, unless we're all out mining in the same belt for hours, I don't get a whole lot of ISK/hour. Last time I earned ISK was actually yesterday, where I got about 15mil in one hour by running anomaly. That's not profitable in the long run, considering the amounts of Hail Ammo I spent... I think my total profit was about 10 mil from that single low-sec anomaly, actually, when subtracting the ammo-cost. So, yeah. Not profitable enough in the long run. High-sec Mission Running gives more ISK than that if done right, even with two ships sharing the bounties.

And even if I were to leave, I honestly think I'd be in my full right to take 95% of the blueprints the corp owns. I bought those with my own money and let the corp borrow them for production. That basically means I own the blueprints. Not the corp. It's not theft if I'm just taking back what I let others borrow, thus I can't be accused of corp-theft. It's just their fault for not paying me for the blueprint (not that they have the ISK to do that, of course)

They're not. I'm one of the people in charge of production in my mains' corp, so cutting me off from the blueprints would make it kinda hard for me to do my job.

Also, I've decided to just pause my main on one of my accounts as of tomorrow, so I can start training an alt for piracy, suicide-ganking and general assholish behaviour. I've seen a lot of people talking about using Catalysts for suicide-ganking Hulks, but can 1 Catalyst really do it, or will it take a few more than my own one? I don't plan on suicide-ganking right off the bat, that'll wait until I have skills to do it properly. Or would I be better off skilling for a Talos or Brutix (whichever has most Volley-damage/DPS)?

Step 1) Fit a rupture

Step 2) Join a L4 mission corp

Step 3) Ask if you can run a mission with a guy in a shiny ship

Step 4) Kill the shiny ship, take its loot and wallah you have a PLEX.

Couldn't be easier.

I know this is a necro by now, but it's worth noting all the "communication software" people keep referring to are free pieces of software.

Vent: http://www.ventrilo.com/download.ph
Teamspeak: http://www.teamspeak.com/
Mumble: http://www.mumble.com/mumble-download.php