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OH god,.... the morphite!!

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Hemmo Paskiainen
#1 - 2012-03-27 11:19:37 UTC
Hop on the band wagon when you still can. With drone regions being deserted by xxbotsxxx the supply is running out fast. The incomming drone nerf will make the morphite prices spike hugh!!

PS: Pre drone region morphite prices:17k isk pu, add increased T2 market & T1 refine loot table nerf = 25k isk pu morphite in 6 months!!

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
Chevalleis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-03-27 11:36:25 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
With drone regions being deserted by xxbotsxxx the supply is running out fast.


Source?
Scott Ryder
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-03-27 11:40:02 UTC
We can only dream and hope <3
Sandrestal
Pakistani Taxi Drivers
#4 - 2012-03-27 12:20:38 UTC
Chevalleis wrote:
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
With drone regions being deserted by xxbotsxxx the supply is running out fast.


Source?


As in the Drones will no longer drop alloys
papamike
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-03-27 13:22:15 UTC
Was that You who bought out just about the entire Metropolis region of Morph.

Beat me to it :)
Mr Blue
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#6 - 2012-03-27 15:39:17 UTC
speculation aside isnt morph a really really limited player in the mineral/building industry.

Besides for speculation I dont see mophine taking a huge hit as it can easly be supplyed from regular mining.(in 0.0)
Countesss
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-03-27 15:47:33 UTC
Mr Blue wrote:
speculation aside isnt morph a really really limited player in the mineral/building industry.

Besides for speculation I dont see mophine taking a huge hit as it can easly be supplyed from regular mining.(in 0.0)


Morphite is used in t2 production Mr. Blue. That includes bpo manufacturing and invention.

Mr Blue wrote:

Besides for speculation I dont see mophine taking a huge hit as it can easly be supplyed from regular mining.(in 0.0)


Any of the other affected minerals are just as easily mined in null sec, so that argument doesn't really apply. Morphite will go up in price due to the nerf, if it's a lot is still questionable imo.
Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
#8 - 2012-03-27 16:27:30 UTC
Prices spiked hard in jita yesterday, 7.2k a unit.
Countesss
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-03-27 17:21:26 UTC
Also doesn't help that Hemmo Paskiainen is spamming everywhere that morphite is going to go crazy high as he clearly bought up a bunch and wants all the speculators to help raise the price in a panic lol.
VaMei
Meafi Corp
#10 - 2012-03-27 17:22:28 UTC  |  Edited by: VaMei
Mr Blue wrote:
I dont see mophine taking a huge hit as it can easly be supplyed from regular mining.(in 0.0)


In order to mine Merc, you need to fit Deep Core or Modulated Deep Core miners, nerfing your yield for any other ore. Any mining character that's trained Deep Core Mining can choose to fit the modules, but at recent prices no one's gonna consider Merc if there's ABC to be found.
Once prices do balance out and Merc is profitable over ABC, you need miners that are skilled to do it, and have access to the lowest True Sec areas of space to even find it.
Countesss
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-03-27 17:37:42 UTC
VaMei wrote:
Mr Blue wrote:
I dont see mophine taking a huge hit as it can easly be supplyed from regular mining.(in 0.0)


In order to mine Merc, you need to fit Deep Core or Modulated Deep Core miners, nerfing your yield for any other ore. Any mining character that's trained Deep Core Mining can choose to fit the modules, but at recent prices no one's gonna consider Merc if there's ABC to be found.
Once prices do balance out and Merc is profitable over ABC, you need miners that are skilled to do it, and have access to the lowest True Sec areas of space to even find it.


Yeah just the same if I fit corkite crystals its going to nerf my ability to mine arkonor lol. When you're mining, you are mining with a purpose and a fitting that suits that purpose. Don't forget with WH's it's not very hard to find a place to mine highends.

Being trained for mercoxit minings skill training isn't an issue, it's not an sp heavy skill or profession.
Hemmo Paskiainen
#12 - 2012-03-27 21:51:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Hemmo Paskiainen
Countesss wrote:
VaMei wrote:
Mr Blue wrote:
I dont see mophine taking a huge hit as it can easly be supplyed from regular mining.(in 0.0)


In order to mine Merc, you need to fit Deep Core or Modulated Deep Core miners, nerfing your yield for any other ore. Any mining character that's trained Deep Core Mining can choose to fit the modules, but at recent prices no one's gonna consider Merc if there's ABC to be found.
Once prices do balance out and Merc is profitable over ABC, you need miners that are skilled to do it, and have access to the lowest True Sec areas of space to even find it.


Yeah just the same if I fit corkite crystals its going to nerf my ability to mine arkonor lol. When you're mining, you are mining with a purpose and a fitting that suits that purpose. Don't forget with WH's it's not very hard to find a place to mine highends.

Being trained for mercoxit minings skill training isn't an issue, it's not an sp heavy skill or profession.



wth am i going into a dicsuccion with a neut alt.. someone pls tell me..

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
Countesss
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-03-27 22:56:12 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:

edit, wth am i going into a dicsuccion with a neut alt.. someone pls tell me..


Lol buddy you're lost, CAOD is the other forum. This is MD, npc or not doesn't mean anything.
Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
#14 - 2012-03-29 09:52:18 UTC

Gonna hit 30k in moments.


Don't be a ****, sell at 30k and have paience. Don't underprice and be a poor fool.

Large volumes of highly researched Ammo, drones, charges and ship bpo's. Biggest BPO store in EVE! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524
Lecherito
Swag Incorporated
#15 - 2012-03-29 11:31:41 UTC
Morphite just blew up in Jita, this morning.

Been an interesting few weeks =P

-L
Hemmo Paskiainen
#16 - 2012-03-29 12:55:52 UTC
its climbing 1000 isk pu a day for the past week

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
Second Prize
Acid Effect
#17 - 2012-03-29 13:33:15 UTC
I have 210mil units of morphite. Each time i hit 25bil isk, i buy morph for 20bil. I am willing to sell the entire stack for 10k/unit. Offer is valid today and tomorrow only. Mail me.
Shalaava
SlashCry
#18 - 2012-03-29 15:07:03 UTC
For those who may be curious, from a mining point of view, mining Mercoxit w/ a maxed out Skiff, disregarding gang bonuses, would yield 50M isk/hr/Skiff if Morphite were to reach 14.4k isk/pu. In terms of supply side constraints, it seems prices can still go up quite a bit, but evaluating the demand is more difficult.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#19 - 2012-03-29 23:05:17 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:

Did you missed the memo that ccp where going to nerf high ends in the lower tier WH's? They talked about it long ago, i wouldnt be suprised if they iterate that in big mining themed patch.


Link?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#20 - 2012-03-29 23:18:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:

Did you missed the memo that ccp where going to nerf high ends in the lower tier WH's? They talked about it long ago, i wouldnt be suprised if they iterate that in big mining themed patch.


Link?

I believe you will find it buried in the CSM 6 notes.

Keep in mind, Two Step wasn't there, and those in attendance didn't have a clue about wormholes let alone the real amount of minerals that were being produced in w-space.

I seem to recall there was a follow-up with some numbers produced by a dev on w-space mining, but it was raw data with no analysis of what it meant in the big picture.

EDIT: Here it is, last paragraph on page 27:

http://community.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2011/CSM_CCP_Meetings_18-20_05_2011.pdf

CSM Minutes, p27 wrote:
CCP talked about removing ABC (Arkonor, Bistot and Crokite) mining sites from wormhole space at some point in the future. This may be from all wormholes, or possibly from lower class wormholes only. It was claimed by some members of the CSM that a large fraction of the high end ore supply is produced through these sites, however the CSMs who were active in wormholes would not accept this claim without hard data to back it up.


CSM Minutes, p29 wrote:
Based on comments by CCP Greyscale in a previous session, the subject of removing "ABC" minerals from wormholes was raised by nullsec-resident CSMs, who were surprised to learn that WH space was nullsec and that ABC minerals were available in them. They favored entirely removing ABC from WH space -- or limiting them to C5 and C6 holes -- but the two wormhole-resident CSMs objected strongly, pointing out that exporting minerals from deep wormhole space was difficult, and much of it was likely consumed locally.

An argument was made by some CSMs that the prices of ABC ores and refined products were being crashed by "daytrippers" mining in easily-accessible wormhole space; other CSMs stated that no nerfing of ABC minerals should take place without first obtaining detailed statistics about the balance of trade for each mineral and class of wormhole.


CSM Minutes, p31 wrote:
The CSM, with the exception of two members, is irked at the idea of high value ores being mined in low-end wormholes distorting the market. CCP Zulu mentioned that he considers this ‘******ed’ and that this will be looked into. In Class 5 or 6 wormholes the position is more nuanced, and the CSM acknowledged that these minerals could be used for local production, and that they are too far from the market to distort it.


There were a couple of threadnoughts on the topic.
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