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Hey CCP, your legal department isn't doing you any favors.

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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#61 - 2012-03-29 08:08:34 UTC
Joseph Sulaco wrote:

Does the fact that he named the person individually make this a TOS/EULA violatoin? Because about once a year Helicity Boson organizes and event that is eve advertised by CCP whose sole bases is to suicide gank miners as much as you possibly could. GRANTED I don't remember Mittani's exact words at the moment but I do know he said to go suicide gank this guy.

I guess the distinction is the intended results of said actions? Suicide vs Carebear Tears?


I'm going to go with it being a TOS/EULA violation because he embarrassed CCP more than it being a real TOS/EULA violation. If I had to guess, they went with it being something similar to forum harassment of a deranged individual. I saw a really good article on why it probably wasn't a TOS/EULA violation last night. Let me hunt it up.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Davor
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#62 - 2012-03-29 08:12:02 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Davor wrote:
Show me where the EULA covers what you do out of game.


My personal opinion is that this wasn't covered by the EULA or TOS. CCP disagreed with me in the dev blog, and Mittens isn't inclined to make waves over it. I see no point in fighting about it.

-Liang

not fighting with you, the point needed to be made.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#63 - 2012-03-29 08:19:31 UTC
Davor wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
Davor wrote:
Show me where the EULA covers what you do out of game.


My personal opinion is that this wasn't covered by the EULA or TOS. CCP disagreed with me in the dev blog, and Mittens isn't inclined to make waves over it. I see no point in fighting about it.

-Liang

not fighting with you, the point needed to be made.


Excuse me - I meant fighting with CCP over it. Twisted

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Davor
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#64 - 2012-03-29 08:33:32 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Davor wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
Davor wrote:
Show me where the EULA covers what you do out of game.


My personal opinion is that this wasn't covered by the EULA or TOS. CCP disagreed with me in the dev blog, and Mittens isn't inclined to make waves over it. I see no point in fighting about it.

-Liang

not fighting with you, the point needed to be made.


Excuse me - I meant fighting with CCP over it. Twisted

-Liang

Fun, then, the reason is fun.
Prince Kobol
#65 - 2012-03-29 08:38:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
Why do so many people have such difficulty in understanding that the EULA/TOS in any MMO translates into

"We can do what we want, when we want, how we want"

"If we want to ban your ass because I spilled my coffee this morning, some **** cut me up in traffic and now I'm pissed an want to vent my anger at somebody, we can and we will"

The EULA/TOS are written to give CCP and all the other MMO's the power to do what ever the hell they like.

Deal with it.
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#66 - 2012-03-29 22:27:27 UTC
For the record, my event does not target individual miners, and I refuse any requests for specific miners to be targeted.

That is against the EULA, blowing up "all miners" distinctly is not
Aranakas
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#67 - 2012-03-29 22:38:42 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
This just in. California is everywhere.



This just in, you are subject to the laws of the US even abroad.


This is so true it is sad.

Aranakas CEO of Green Anarchy Green vs Green

CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#68 - 2012-03-30 07:02:12 UTC
Please keep the discussion here.

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