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Why doesn't Goonswarm take down the Russians?

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Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2011-09-26 01:22:25 UTC
Goons won't touch the DRF because we are good at hiding our pies.

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Raid'En
#42 - 2011-09-26 01:35:42 UTC
Headerman wrote:
Goons won't touch the DRF because we are good at hiding our pies.

they may be more interested on the girls who made the pies however
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2011-09-26 01:48:54 UTC
Raid'En wrote:
Headerman wrote:
Goons won't touch the DRF because we are good at hiding our pies.

they may be more interested on the girls who made the pies however


Doubtful

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#44 - 2011-09-26 01:50:38 UTC
Jebidus Skari wrote:
Becuase goons arent very good either, if DRF wanted to take out goons tomorrow they could with ease. Goons are just full of hot air, once they get attacked they will run thats why...


They already tried that.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#45 - 2011-09-26 01:55:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
The Apostle wrote:
Quote:
Welpfleet is unstoppable. We can never lose as long as we have our big rifters.

Bomb away......
Warp drive active......


They tried that too. Ended something like this.
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#46 - 2011-09-26 04:43:13 UTC
Mehrdad Kor-Azor wrote:
Martyr Theos wrote:
Are you ready for Nova Bombs yet?


Yeah, cause we all want alts in Ibises able to destroy entire fleets.

Get out.


Such things frighten you? Now that would be interesting indeed, and might be what this game needs...one little insurgent ship ready to wipe the board clean of all on it. I don't think it'd be that simple, but it sure would be cute to watch everyone quake in their little boots.

And as for the idea of putting them on their own server? Nah...stick them on the same one with the chinese slave gamers. I'd love watching that.
"If."
Abominare
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#47 - 2011-09-26 05:03:27 UTC
I'm sure it has to do with much of the risk adversity in the null region. No one wants to lose their stuff, not matter how little their **** is in the grand scheme of things everyone from the tiniest goon to the highest goon thinks they have a good thing going on.

DRF is big, theyre huge, theyre giant, however when the two biggest boys go fighting each other they know two things for sure. Some one will lose their sov, their pretty little imaginary empire in a video game, and 2 some of the biggest fights that will come as a result will largely be dictated by lag luck.

However, even if the lag was magically fixed, these two may never fight while they're considered the two largest and only real blocs in the game, because of fear of losing fake stuff.

I certainly don't think its ccp's fault for the lack of fights in null when players are too scared of losing pixel ships.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#48 - 2011-09-26 05:08:23 UTC
Well if the DRF supercap fleets depend on bots pulling in ore to maintain them, then perhaps some asymmetric approaches would work.


I thought goons were good at messing with miners.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Abominare
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#49 - 2011-09-26 05:15:44 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Well if the DRF supercap fleets depend on bots pulling in ore to maintain them, then perhaps some asymmetric approaches would work.


I thought goons were good at messing with miners.




with any luck DRF would return the favor and shoot at Goon/CFC bot fields as well, sounds like a win-win.
Tri Vetra
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2011-09-26 05:27:40 UTC
I hope this never happens since stupidity and incompetence of general eve community along with hillarious explosions of racism is one of the reasons I'm playing.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#51 - 2011-09-26 05:37:52 UTC
I never understood how people hurf durf about Goons "ruining" Eve yet they expect them to be their nullsec saviors from the DRF.

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pussnheels
Viziam
#52 - 2011-09-26 05:40:12 UTC
Simple answer

Because Goons prefer fighting against something that doesn't shoot back

If it can fire back Goons will not touch it for fear of losing
Besides why shoot the russians since both are co operating in RMT deals that benefits them both

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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#53 - 2011-09-26 06:06:48 UTC
Ladie Scarlet wrote:
Large Collidable Object wrote:
Well - that's bricksquad - mostly ex-ME and R.A.G.E. members - semi-decent Bricksquad members left when they joined...

Yeah I know they are horrible but they are really, really invested in finding a counter to welpfleet and because PL bombers killed some hurricanes that were stuck outside of a POS shield they have been running around declaring victory while their Delve sov burns.

An IRL convo between these 2 faces would make brave men run in terror Shocked

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Real Poison
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2011-09-26 06:35:27 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Ladie Scarlet wrote:
Large Collidable Object wrote:
Well - that's bricksquad - mostly ex-ME and R.A.G.E. members - semi-decent Bricksquad members left when they joined...

Yeah I know they are horrible but they are really, really invested in finding a counter to welpfleet and because PL bombers killed some hurricanes that were stuck outside of a POS shield they have been running around declaring victory while their Delve sov burns.

An IRL convo between these 2 faces would make brave men run in terror Shocked


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Signal11th
#55 - 2011-09-26 07:52:49 UTC
There are more ways to win a fight than just by force of arms. You are talking about someone who had/has the largest spy,infiltration program going so it wouldn't suprise me in 6 months time you hear about this or that alliance folding half of their stock/isk/bpo's being half-inched.

But then again he might just sit back and take the iskies you never know or like me not particulary care.

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Jee'ta
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2011-09-26 08:05:53 UTC

The goons have no great ambition to hold masses of space (managing renters is :effort:), don't dislike most of the Russians that much (as compared to the modern variant of MM), it wouldn't be "fun" and they don't have the capacity to challenge the DRF for sov even if they did want to. They could defend Deklein against the "leet-PvP" fringe of the DRF only if they called every ally they had, had the motivation of home defense and were fighting under a cyno-jammer.

The CFC is the second most power coalition in the game mostly because everyone above them has evaporated.


Jebidus Skari
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#57 - 2011-09-26 09:50:36 UTC
Ladie Scarlet wrote:
Jebidus Skari wrote:
Becuase goons arent very good either, if DRF wanted to take out goons tomorrow they could with ease. Goons are just full of hot air, once they get attacked they will run thats why...

Welpfleet is unstoppable. We can never lose as long as we have our big rifters.



Stealthbombers ...
Kunming
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2011-09-26 11:37:25 UTC
Falin Whalen wrote:


DamnShocked Now seriously is that truth or just Goon propaganda?

This game is giving too much incentive to group effords, or better said just groups!
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#59 - 2011-09-26 12:24:32 UTC
Jebidus Skari wrote:
Ladie Scarlet wrote:
Jebidus Skari wrote:
Becuase goons arent very good either, if DRF wanted to take out goons tomorrow they could with ease. Goons are just full of hot air, once they get attacked they will run thats why...

Welpfleet is unstoppable. We can never lose as long as we have our big rifters.



Stealthbombers ...


They die by the hundreds!
AFKCloaked AltSpy
Doomheim
#60 - 2011-09-26 13:09:45 UTC
Because they spend too much time saying what a bad poster I am.

Nah just kidding its coz they can't.