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Why we need the Goons
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RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-03-29 15:26:08 UTC
Goon Damage Control II in action.

Yeah.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
MEPH1ST0
Masonic Guard
#22 - 2012-03-29 15:28:04 UTC
Eve needs BOB

BRING BACK BOB !!
Katja Faith
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-03-29 15:29:30 UTC
Every intarwebs game needs teenagers and basement dwellers...
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#24 - 2012-03-29 15:32:41 UTC
Oh please. Eve does not NEED goons. Eve needs players who know where to draw the line. There are plenty of other bad guys in Eve. I don't care about goons one way or the other, they can go, stay, burn Jita, do whatever they like. But their sense of entitlement toward this game has clearly become delusional. Starting at the top with a leader who thought that pretending remorse could fix the problem that he himself caused.

And it's way too late to expect people to support an alliance that has taken advantage of so many players. Sure, scams, theft, all that are permitted in the game. That doesn't mean anybody who gets scammed is going to like it or forget it. Support for the Goonswarm? Good luck with that. They have made so many enemies that's never going to happen.
Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#25 - 2012-03-29 15:33:46 UTC
Ban Bindy wrote:
Oh please. Eve does not NEED goons. Eve needs players who know where to draw the line. There are plenty of other bad guys in Eve. I don't care about goons one way or the other, they can go, stay, burn Jita, do whatever they like. But their sense of entitlement toward this game has clearly become delusional. Starting at the top with a leader who thought that pretending remorse could fix the problem that he himself caused.

And it's way too late to expect people to support an alliance that has taken advantage of so many players. Sure, scams, theft, all that are permitted in the game. That doesn't mean anybody who gets scammed is going to like it or forget it. Support for the Goonswarm? Good luck with that. They have made so many enemies that's never going to happen.


The fact that we're even having this discussion suggests the contrary.

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."
My Neutral Toon
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-03-29 15:53:18 UTC
If you don't like GSF. Then take them down.

Mittnes ban shows you CCP is not in the goons back pocket.


IF you are not strong enough to take them down. then STFU, this is Eve.

...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious....

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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#27 - 2012-03-29 15:54:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Bane Necran
I can't go anywhere without seeing at least a couple dozen 'bad guys'.

If this game needs anything it's good guys.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Ivana Twinkle
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-03-29 15:55:11 UTC
I'm not a bad guy.
Sister Rhode
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-03-29 15:55:17 UTC
Opertone wrote:
What happened to Goons?


We are disbanding the alliance. The MIttani is quitting Eve because of this injustice, and the majority of the alliance is moving back to Second Life. Some member corps will stay, but not under the Goon banner.

RIP it was fun while it lasted.
Josefius
13th Tribe of Kobol Expeditionary
#30 - 2012-03-29 16:09:03 UTC
Sister Rhode wrote:
Opertone wrote:
What happened to Goons?


We are disbanding the alliance. The MIttani is quitting Eve because of this injustice, and the majority of the alliance is moving back to Second Life. Some member corps will stay, but not under the Goon banner.

RIP it was fun while it lasted.


That's not what he said in the SoTG.

You have enemies? Good, that means you stood up for something, sometime in your life.

-Winston Churchill
Sister Rhode
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-03-29 16:15:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Sister Rhode
Josefius wrote:
Sister Rhode wrote:
Opertone wrote:
What happened to Goons?


We are disbanding the alliance. The MIttani is quitting Eve because of this injustice, and the majority of the alliance is moving back to Second Life. Some member corps will stay, but not under the Goon banner.

RIP it was fun while it lasted.


That's not what he said in the SoTG.


SotGs are always designed to spread mis-information. Why do you think it was on EveNews24 so fast?
JamesCLK
#32 - 2012-03-29 16:20:27 UTC  |  Edited by: JamesCLK
Sister Rhode wrote:
Josefius wrote:
Sister Rhode wrote:
Opertone wrote:
What happened to Goons?


We are disbanding the alliance. The MIttani is quitting Eve because of this injustice, and the majority of the alliance is moving back to Second Life. Some member corps will stay, but not under the Goon banner.

RIP it was fun while it lasted.


That's not what he said in the SoTG.


SotGs are always designed to spread mis-information. Why do you think it was on EveNews24 so fast?


Obviously Riverini already broke the NDA Roll

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Goatse Girl
Thirsty Beaver
#33 - 2012-03-29 16:51:03 UTC
There are no goons
Calfis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2012-03-29 16:52:42 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
We ain't evil, we're just good looking.


You're not a Goon, you're a goon pet, there is a differerence. Blink
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#35 - 2012-03-29 17:12:55 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
We ain't evil, we're just good looking.

(any more alice cooper fans here or just me?)


Start a little fire, and baby start cookin'
I'm a hungry man
But I don't want pizza
I'll blow down your house
And then I'm gonna eat ya


Sounds about right for the Goons

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Mistress Lilu
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-03-29 17:13:51 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
This is me with my trolling-hat off. Eve needs Goons for the simple reason that this game needs BAD GUYS. CCP has developed "evil" NPCs like Sansha's, Blood Raiders, Guristas et al but they don't provoke anger or hatred in the same way as the Goons. We need something to passionately hate. We also need an unpredictable and ruthless entity that will keep us on our toes and uphold Eve's reputation as a dark, merciless universe. The Goons fit this bill quite nicely. Obviously the Mittani went one step too far and manned up with an OOC apology and compensation, and CCP has followed through with a reasonable punishment.

But Eve MUST remain a cruel and dark place. This is what makes Eve better than every other MMO out there. If you detest the goons, defeat them ingame. Resorting to "meta-game" tactics is sad and pathetic. You're no longer playing a game. Find yourself a new hobby if you're starting to take Eve too seriously.

Long live Eve.

I dont need the goon, especially a douche bag like mitardi.
Creed Richards
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2012-03-29 17:31:36 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
I can't go anywhere without seeing at least a couple dozen 'bad guys'.

If this game needs anything it's good guys.


So...very...true.
Basileus Volkan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2012-03-29 17:33:06 UTC
According to the "silent majority", the game doesn't even need Nullsec, let alone Goons. Apparently people are perfectly happy with shooting rocks all day.
adam smash
Department of Gub'nent Welfare
Harkonnen Federation
#39 - 2012-03-29 17:44:01 UTC
Yes we so need goons...

Remove goons and we could see what the russians would do to test and the rest of the cfc...

Ya so we don't need the goons in eve for it to work, TBH it be fun to see what eve would be like with NO goons.

If you want the scum of the earth go to second life... eve does not need people who are going to greif everyone because their leader is an *******.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#40 - 2012-03-29 17:47:20 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
This is me with my trolling-hat off. Eve needs Goons for the simple reason that this game needs BAD GUYS. CCP has developed "evil" NPCs like Sansha's, Blood Raiders, Guristas et al but they don't provoke anger or hatred in the same way as the Goons. We need something to passionately hate. We also need an unpredictable and ruthless entity that will keep us on our toes and uphold Eve's reputation as a dark, merciless universe. The Goons fit this bill quite nicely. Obviously the Mittani went one step too far and manned up with an OOC apology and compensation, and CCP has followed through with a reasonable punishment.

But Eve MUST remain a cruel and dark place. This is what makes Eve better than every other MMO out there. If you detest the goons, defeat them ingame. Resorting to "meta-game" tactics is sad and pathetic. You're no longer playing a game. Find yourself a new hobby if you're starting to take Eve too seriously.

Long live Eve.



What does this have to do with some Drunk making a fool out of himself in front of live Video feed? And Goon alts complaining about Meta-gaming? Are you kidding?

I'm all for keeping Goons, the hive simply needs to be trimmed back ....Cool


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