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Spy 21
Doomheim
#121 - 2012-03-29 15:14:54 UTC
Shooting sh*t and blowing up ships in a game designed for shooting sh*t and blowing up ships is not really much of a protest in my opinion.

The ultimate protest is to unsub.
Or like they say in US politics... vote with your feet.

Obfuscation for the WIN on page 3...
Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#122 - 2012-03-29 15:16:23 UTC
Andrea Griffin wrote:
Shaampoo wrote:
Jita burn at worse will be a few QQ posts and a new market hub properly Amaar or Paris
Exactly. There's plenty of trade at the other hubs, and it will just move there - if it moves at all. I'm not particularly convinced that the Goons will be effective in affecting Jita trade to any large degree.

I don't expect much in the way of tears either; those who use Jita enough to matter will see this as an opportunity or, at the very least, understand that this is Eve and won't whine about it.

But we'll see, I suppose.

If Goons want grief and tears then they should instead move their Tornadoes to mission hubs and start ganking expensive mission ships. Those who run missions 23/7 are quite possibly the most self entitled, conflict-averse people in all of Eve, and they would whine the loudest. Plus, it still affects the market to a degree by destroying expensive ships and modules.

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Why stop at Jita ???

GET CREATIVE.

JITA, DODIXIE, AMARR, RENS, HEK, TASH-MURKON, et al.
Tash-Murkon? Really? That place is a ghost town. Might as well toss Ouresaleaurt (or whatever that abomination is) on the pile in that case.



...and those faction ships pay out **** for insurance. I fly a Navy Domi. Thing costs like 700mil, and insurance pays out 50.

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#123 - 2012-03-29 15:17:22 UTC
RL just got evicted from PB so they have nothing else to do than go to and I quote Mittani "The heart of highsec" to have their "pvp".

Hilarious!
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#124 - 2012-03-29 15:18:17 UTC
Spy 21 wrote:
Shooting sh*t and blowing up ships in a game designed for shooting sh*t and blowing up ships is not really much of a protest in my opinion.

The ultimate protest is to unsub.
Or like they say in US politics... vote with your feet.



The problem is their dear leader has specifically instructed them not to unsub. They are stuck in the game until The Mittani says they can go. Much like a dog waiting with a treat on its nose.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Ninyania alCladdyth
McLuvin AstroDynamics
#125 - 2012-03-29 15:23:48 UTC
I'd pay good ISKies to see ten-thousand angry Goons go head-to-head with CONCORD.


Hell, I think CCP should relax the rules on cyno beacons in high-sec so the Goons can hot-drop some super-caps and REALLY lay siege to 4-4.
Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#126 - 2012-03-29 15:26:35 UTC
State of the goonies was hilarious to me. One second he is admitting he messed up and the next he is saying he was wronged... I guess that's the only way he can try to motivate and confuse the followers. He is very lucky to get this slap on the wrist.

There is no SOV in Jita last I checked. I am sure they will have fun none the less.
Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#127 - 2012-03-29 15:27:57 UTC
Shepard Book wrote:
State of the goonies was hilarious to me. One second he is admitting he messed up and the next he is saying he was wronged... I guess that's the only way he can try to motivate and confuse the followers. He is very lucky to get this slap on the wrist.

There is no SOV in Jita last I checked. I am sure they will have fun none the less.


You can be wrong and still get **** on more than you should be.

The magic of proportions!

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."
Doddy
Excidium.
#128 - 2012-03-29 15:27:57 UTC
Spy 21 wrote:
Shooting sh*t and blowing up ships in a game designed for shooting sh*t and blowing up ships is not really much of a protest in my opinion.

The ultimate protest is to unsub.
Or like they say in US politics... vote with your feet.



What makes you think its a protest? the jitaburn was planned long before any of the csm crap happened. It has nothing to do with the Mittanis ban except perhaps it being put back till his ban ends. The only real effect it will have is the goons will now post "free Mittani" in local instead of the usual memes.
Htrag
The Carebear Stare
Hydroponic Zone
#129 - 2012-03-29 15:28:54 UTC
Largo Usagi wrote:
If CCP takes action against the jita burn, I will be done with eve, it would be irrefutable proof that the sandbox is completely dead. No where in space should be 100% safe and the mechanics the way they are keep a good balance, ******* with that balance is just wrong and thats what would have to be done to stop this from happening.


I already feel like part of the sandbox died with the Privateer Alliance nerf.

Whatever "dev" it was that removed the pod squish sound probably never even logged into the game.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#130 - 2012-03-29 15:30:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Markus Reese
Ninyania alCladdyth wrote:
I'd pay good ISKies to see ten-thousand angry Goons go head-to-head with CONCORD.


Hell, I think CCP should relax the rules on cyno beacons in high-sec so the Goons can hot-drop some super-caps and REALLY lay siege to 4-4.


Don't think that would happen. During the incursion live events of 2010, a large group of the roleplayers etc were looking at doing something. People misquoted us and the reps came straight out and said that they do not promote or allow special actions for players or groups. Something like that. If this did happen, it would be as part of a greater eve roleplaying and would be open to all players of eve. That would mean advanced noticed and other people would counter hotdrop eve.

That in itself would be a pretty cool thing and excellent promotion for eve. Live events allow for much larger profile of a bit of how null and lowsec are. A highsec capfight would get alot of people attracted to the pvp side once they actually see or can get involved with the large gang stuff. Mechanics and favoritism accusations would probably do more harm than good though.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#131 - 2012-03-29 15:30:41 UTC
Doddy wrote:
Spy 21 wrote:
Shooting sh*t and blowing up ships in a game designed for shooting sh*t and blowing up ships is not really much of a protest in my opinion.

The ultimate protest is to unsub.
Or like they say in US politics... vote with your feet.



What makes you think its a protest? the jitaburn was planned long before any of the csm crap happened. It has nothing to do with the Mittanis ban except perhaps it being put back till his ban ends. The only real effect it will have is the goons will now post "free Mittani" in local instead of the usual memes.


Y'know, for ***** and giggles, I dropped a can in Dodi labelled 'Free Mittani.' Someone immediately flipped it in the hopes I would start a fight over it, but then someone else flipped it thinking the second guy had dropped it, and someone else came along thinking the third guy had done it. It actually turned out a lot like the beginning of RoadHouse.

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#132 - 2012-03-29 15:34:59 UTC  |  Edited by: I Love Boobies
I find it funny the Goons complaining about their 10k votes being "nullified". Blame their boss, he was the one that acted like an asshat. If you wanna be mad at CCP for some reason, be upset at them for promoting drinking via dev comments and so on as much at the fanfest and then maybe "He Who Must Not Be Named" wouldn't be living with the consequences.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#133 - 2012-03-29 15:35:12 UTC
Imma' just gonna leave this here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Y4s7WbM3c

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Mana Potion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#134 - 2012-03-29 15:36:23 UTC
Arcathra wrote:

He said multiple times that he is mad because of the 30 day ban and that he feels that CCP isn't the CCP he is used to because of this ban. He wants to see Jita burn because he wants to see if CCP interferes to "test the waters" if CCP really changed.


No. He said he was angry that CCP threw him under the bus for a possible non public agenda...

It seems some people don't pay attention very well. You should probably start up your ADHD meds again.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#135 - 2012-03-29 15:39:44 UTC
Burning Jita would, in my opinion, be a good end to this sad saga. It's a game of space combat and PVP after all.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Welsige
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#136 - 2012-03-29 15:42:38 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Vila eNorvic wrote:
Aiden Andraste wrote:
CCP overreacted in their decision to completely nullify 10000 player opinions.

Nope - the candidate the 10000 players voted for did that of his own volition.



Yup goons need to HTFU.

Never knew they would be such babies.



Actually everyone needs to chill and go play the game.

[b]~ 10.058 ~

Free The Mittani[/b]
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#137 - 2012-03-29 15:44:20 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
Will CCP act against the Burn Jita campaign on day 1? No.

Will CCP act against the prolonged campaign of Burn Jita? Probably.

Why would they? Because continued grieving and or disruption of other players game experience is frowned upon if not covered by the GM governance framework.

Spiteful goons are spiteful.


This pretty much. They'll let Jita burn in the short term but if it continues with no end in sight and game play is disrupted for a lot of players, I can see them step in.

I see another trade hub picking up the slack though
Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#138 - 2012-03-29 15:44:43 UTC
Welsige wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
Vila eNorvic wrote:
Aiden Andraste wrote:
CCP overreacted in their decision to completely nullify 10000 player opinions.

Nope - the candidate the 10000 players voted for did that of his own volition.



Yup goons need to HTFU.

Never knew they would be such babies.



Actually everyone needs to chill and go play the game.


Hey, I'm a drone pilot. See signature for why I have all this ******* time to post on the forums.

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
#139 - 2012-03-29 15:44:45 UTC
What population can Jita sustain before the gates get locked?
Basileus Volkan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#140 - 2012-03-29 15:47:19 UTC
If you truly believe the average inhabitant of Jita would be smart enough to move somewhere else you are overestimating people a lot.

The Ice Interdiction already proved that most people in highsec can not deal with sudden change to their "lifestyle" at all.