EVE General Discussion

I dont think they will only be shootin spaceships.

And about that goony nonsense: I don't care how I sound when I make a comment.

Even if I sound goony, I'll never be a Pooswarmer.

Ceterum censeo Goonswarm esse delendam!

And biomassed... in and out of game!

It is probably true that the reaction to Mittani has been surprisingly strong. However, I do not think it is a question of irrational hatred towards him or a political calculated play but rather a question of what he did being something that a lot of the playerbase have for long considered undesirable. Past 5-6 years the game social environment has gotten gradually worse all the time, until we are at a point where it is perfectly acceptable and even expected of the alliance leader panel to consist of drunken ridiculing of each others' rivals, rather than actual discussion about alliances by our most successful alliance leaders, and where newcomers to EVE are routinely told that pointing and laughing at other people's real-life upsets are "part of the game".

When the HTFU line first went up, a lot of us cheered it, and thought it to be about the fact that EVE is a rough game where losing actually hurts, unlike W... some other MMOGs where you prance around incorporeal for a while and get to keep all your stuff. We did not think or imagine it to be used as an excuse to verbally abuse other players. Like I said elsewhere, when Mittani crossed the line, to be fair, it was not like everyone else was being polite and sober in some completely other direction, and he just suddenly ran to the line and jumped over it - it was more like there was a crowd at or across the line, he was drunk, and staggered a step too far in the wrong direction.

The outrage we see (and I feel, too) is probably in a large part a reaction to that proverbial crowd. Mittani deserved what he got, totally, but my guess is that why people are screaming about it still is because it was not an isolated incident, it was just a demonstration that it has gotten so bad that even CSM chairs can do this and people will come to their defense. His case was well-handled by CCP, but if he alone is made the scapegoat here and CCP (lack of) enforcing civil behavior continues as is, things will not get better. In fact, they will probably get worse, and these incidents repeat until someone does die and/or EVE loses a lot of non-goonie players who will rather not deal with the BS or something such.

Also, if you play a game that is too much to your psyche, yes, you are doing something wrong. But that does not mean that people who deliberately make you feel even worse are doing it right, either.

It would take even Goon a month or so to ruin the Jita market, and by the time they did, the market would have moved to another "safer" hub. They have lots to choose from.
Kinda seems redundant, but to each their own. Good luck to Goon and I am looking forward to seeing PLEX loss mails.

Avoiding CONCORD consequences is, I believe, a TOS/EULA breach and (at least if repeated) a bannable offense. In the current situation the Goons face, I would strongly recommend against risking that. They might not have too much goodwill left to spend.

goes for both sides

Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS): look it up.

10/10 for terribad analogy use.

You joining the Jita party when it all starts?

to make jita burn you need to kill more than a single ship 23/7 for a long time

dont think his plan will work, but well see

I never realized I was participating in DD0S attacks all those years, I thought I was just participating in large fleet battles that sometimes were too much for the node in a computer game.

I'm so ashamed.