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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#81 - 2012-03-29 11:17:29 UTC
There's a related discussion here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87788&find=unread about where to draw the line between "griefing" and "playing hard".
Dar Saleem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#82 - 2012-03-29 11:17:40 UTC
Lenrir Andven wrote:
-Facepalm-

We had this planned the moment we hit 10k votes.

This interdiction was no 'knee-jerk' reaction to the Mittani being punished. Cripes.



So let me get this straight you had this planned out, but yoy have buy / make 1800 tornado's ?

I would sack you planner as he forgot something important
Reiisha
#83 - 2012-03-29 11:47:24 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
Will CCP act against the Burn Jita campaign on day 1? No.

Will CCP act against the prolonged campaign of Burn Jita? Probably.

Why would they? Because continued grieving and or disruption of other players game experience is frowned upon if not covered by the GM governance framework.

Spiteful goons are spiteful.


They won't need to. I doubt the ADD nature of goons will cause them to go at it for more than a month, like every other 'campaign' they waged.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Ixion Defence Systems
#84 - 2012-03-29 12:04:21 UTC
Arcathra wrote:
Davor wrote:
Arcathra wrote:
Funny audiolog.

So basically The Mittani is pissed because he was banned for 30 days and wants to destroy Jita as revenge? To "test the waters" if CCP interferes? I really want to see how that will work out... Big smile


English is not your first language, or you're too young to be playing eve, because you didn't understand what was said at all.

Oh, I totally understood what was said. But if you want to have a point, please, say where I am wrong?

He said multiple times that he is mad because of the 30 day ban and that he feels that CCP isn't the CCP he is used to because of this ban. He wants to see Jita burn because he wants to see if CCP interferes to "test the waters" if CCP really changed.

Just an FYI.

He said that the Burn Jita project will go ahead as planned. The only thing that changed was the date.

That is a hint that the project was already on paper before the 30 day ban.
Lenrir Andven
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#85 - 2012-03-29 12:13:52 UTC
JTK Fotheringham wrote:
Lenrir Andven wrote:


Actually Jimmy Tomkins Kungen (I'm taking that's what JTK stands for.) IT will be our win if a new hub emerges. For too long the speculators, the Eve-styled Bankers, the traders have trudged their way in making marketing and trading a 'zombie' profession. With only one market, there was no need to play to the people's tastes in where they want their goods and for what price.

With a new hub, it will force these speculators, the Eve-styled Bankers and traders to finally wake up from their long period of 'zombie hibernation' and to realize they ACTUALLY need to do more than just click a few buttons and dump their cargo at Jita.



I was actually thinking about William Shatner when I created this character... and a girl I liked when I was in uni... whatever that says about me I don't know.

Actually, I see your point about Jita breaking up. It may well do the game a huge favour. Like I'd said repeatedly in my posts this last few days, I'm not in any way bothered by the stuff Goons do in game - it's good, it drives things along, it creates the sort of good buzz the game needs.

My problem is the stupid stuff you guys keep posting on the forums, which is borderline at best.

That said, I'm starting to think defending Jita might be one heck of a good fight. Smile Hi Sec isn't all carebear you know.


I see we have reached to an agreement to a certain extent.

I am pleased you see the point in regards to Jita being broken up. It should definitely lead to a good 'splitting' of the market. After all, all you have to see is other game models to see the kind of infection a 'single market' can lead to (for those that have not played it, look up Ragnarok Online and take a look at the couple of SS in Prontera to understand what I mean about a 'single market'.)

Well, generally the 'stupid' stuff posted here by us is no different from the 'stupid' stuff being posted by a couple of other speculators, or non-goons if you wish to call them that. What they have been saying is also borderline, Darius III, RogueOperator and MeBiatch are three names in mind who, throughout this, are just as 'unreasonable' as some of our own flock.

With all that is said and do, I too wait in anticipation of a defense fleet in order to protect Jita from the 'Tyranny' which is goon, I am sure our incursion will lead to a glorious fight.
Lenrir Andven
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#86 - 2012-03-29 12:14:53 UTC
Dar Saleem wrote:
Lenrir Andven wrote:
-Facepalm-

We had this planned the moment we hit 10k votes.

This interdiction was no 'knee-jerk' reaction to the Mittani being punished. Cripes.



So let me get this straight you had this planned out, but yoy have buy / make 1800 tornado's ?

I would sack you planner as he forgot something important


Goons? Plan?

I think by now you should understand all our plans is normally done over a snack of tea and crumpets.
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-03-29 12:19:53 UTC
Ur235 wrote:
I would imagine they are plalning to throw a few hundred wardecs in aswell against corps and alliances around Jita they have the money for it


You could probably put an "indefinite" into that statement.
Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
#88 - 2012-03-29 12:23:55 UTC
We dont need jita ! Let it burn.. Who cares.. You guys are making too much nosie about ****.. Go play game !!
Lenrir Andven
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#89 - 2012-03-29 12:26:27 UTC
Keen Fallsword wrote:
We dont need jita ! Let it burn.. Who cares.. You guys are making too much nosie about ****.. Go play game !!


The several hundred traders, marketers and speculators would like to have a word with you.
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#90 - 2012-03-29 12:29:12 UTC
Keen Fallsword wrote:
We dont need jita ! Let it burn.. Who cares.. You guys are making too much nosie about ****.. Go play game !!


You're correct. So l'm going to suggest that the other CFC alliances go and camp in the other major trade hubs.

Its a real shame that the old mission hubs are no longer in operation as Motsu would have been the centre of pubbie grief.
Temulkar Blaine
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2012-03-29 12:35:10 UTC
Obviously the Goons burn jita campaign will create excellent game content. Whether thats splitting the market up, Highsec players ganging together for defense fleets or whatever it will make for some fun play.

Concord should war dec the goons for the illegal assault on the trade hub of course. Or would that be CCP intefering Roll
marVLs
#92 - 2012-03-29 12:40:02 UTC
Goons making now even worse all that crap are like kids, pathetic behavior that will be remembered in history of EVE, even now everyone in EVE are laughting at goons Lol
Sponge Blib
#93 - 2012-03-29 12:41:08 UTC
This campaign may mean that I'll actually see some Time dilation going on.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#94 - 2012-03-29 13:08:20 UTC
Temulkar Blaine wrote:
Concord should war dec the goons for the illegal assault on the trade hub of course. Or would that be CCP intefering Roll

I cannot see that as happening. CONCORD did not decide that Jita is a hub, it's a completely capsuleer-driven thing. For all we know CONCORD might be just fine with all of us taking our business away from there, as policing Jita as it is must be a huge time and resource sink for their police force, both in space and on those seedy trade stations. ;)
Nair Alderau
The Blessed Chains of Freedom
#95 - 2012-03-29 13:27:35 UTC
Why would they interfere?

As long as it's just griefing by using in-game-mechanics, they have no reason to.
Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#96 - 2012-03-29 13:29:07 UTC
I don't think CCP would have any problems at all with the whole Jita burning thing, as long as it is done without exploiting. Most players will simply switch to the nearest safe hub. Heck, I trade in Hek, the price difference on most items isn't worth the trip to Jita.
Kibbolski
State War Academy
Caldari State
#97 - 2012-03-29 13:32:01 UTC
Vince Snetterton wrote:
Plus, as others stated, while they burn Jita who is protecting their turf.

Let me tell you about alts and jump clones. They're truly amazing, you might've heard about them.
Deamos
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#98 - 2012-03-29 13:32:11 UTC
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:
I don't think CCP would have any problems at all with the whole Jita burning thing, as long as it is done without exploiting. Most players will simply switch to the nearest safe hub. Heck, I trade in Hek, the price difference on most items isn't worth the trip to Jita.


Depending on the level of grief, they can and have banned even if they use ingame mechanics. Look at what happened to Zombie after to Yulai incident.
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
#99 - 2012-03-29 13:34:12 UTC
Imminent goon attack on Jita is an awesome thing.
Good player driven content, good fun for all.

Just think, a bunch of goons show up to blast away at all the unwary.
A bunch of anti-goon folk are sure to show up .. possibly some new WarDecs.

Lots of shooting, ships exploding ... a good time will be had by all!

Nothing clever at this time.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#100 - 2012-03-29 13:42:23 UTC
I say just avoid Jita on the day.

Deny them kills.

Those Blue Balls will be HIGH-LARIOUS.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882