EVE Fiction

You never tire of trying to imply that you know something others do not, Auwnie?

I wonder if anybody actually buys it.

On topic: It should not be forgotten that the rogue drones not are a unified entity and that the different hives and strains have developed differently due to strong adaptive capabilities. Well, at least that is the official lore until this common misunderstanding suddenly finds its way to the Fiction Portal.

Sorry, not Auwnie. I'm just a disenfranchised fan of EVE watching from the sidelines as a well constructed plot is ignored because of the source.

SPOILER:

Templar One answers everything, though the answers probably aren't what most people are looking for. It's really as simple as "Sleepers are Jove", "Enheduanni control people", and "Rogue Drones and Jove are connected in some way that we're not going to openly answer now because it will give away too much of what we have planned".

Long story short (and "REAL SPOILERS AHEAD", or "SERIOUSLY GUYS, TOTALLY SPOILERS")

1. Sleepers are Jove. Yes, Jove.
2. Enheduanni are really ancient Jove (apparently).
3. Jamyl Sarum was cloned and put back together with Sleeper/Jove technology, which was in turn "infected" with a Sleeper AI construct.
4. Enheduanni manipulate the Minmatar Elders.
5. Grious, a Jove, attempted to thwart the Enheduanni plans... which nearly fully gives away his identity as "The Broker".
6. VILAMOS is a drone used by Ishukone to synthesize Insorum. Definitely Jovian, possibly a Sleeper... (half joking btw). The name is a reference to the father of an assassinated Ishukone CEO.
7. Jamyl (as evidenced by the "Superweapon" being refueled at a rogue drone station), can control rogue drones. She can also control Sleeper Drones. It is, of course, not her, but the "rogue drone" AI in her head. This shows what is readily apparent to anyone running the Sisters of EVE Epic Arc: that Sleeper drones rewrite drones into Rogue Drones, and the connection is now readily apparent between Sleepers and Rogue Drones.
8. CONCORD has some nifty tricks that involve clones and AI.
9. If you read Theodicy, The Empyrean Age, Templar One and Ruthless, as well as the chronicles and the Sisters of EVE Epic Arc... you realize you've spent far too much time reading about EVE and far too little time outside. I know this from personal experience. :-P

Finally:

Intaki Reborn/Ida - Probably more investigation needs to be done in that regard, what with the Zephyr and all. See my point on Jamyl above.

Regardless, that's your "mysterious" connection; the Rogue Drones and Sleeper Drones share a common origin, and that origin is most likely Terran if not Jovian. It all ends up in an "unfortunate series of events", and in the end, there's more going on than you probably think (including Sansha invasions; the proof is in the nomenclature, btw).

Anyways; believe it, disprove it, whatever. My job is done. I can now retire from EVE...


...or not.

I totally agree. Two points however:

1. VILAMOS is a bit more than meets the eye, I would wager. I am fairly sure it's the "unnamed source" in the World on Fire chronicles that speaks to the Blood Raider Captain. No proof other than instinct though to back that up... The other possibility is a bit too wild to say, and it's just out there - because honestly, if the drones guarding Jamyl's Superweapon were rewritten by a Sleeper AI...

...yeah, best not to look down that road, I think.

2. Jror's drones weren't rogues, but a drone was used by Grious to contact Marcus. Was it rogue? Meh, it seemed fairly controlled to me.

In closing:
I'm not going to get sucked into the debate! I've got my very strongly held theories on the Sleeper/Rogue Drone backstory, they contradict the mainstream view, and I shall sit quietly in my corner jabbering nonsensically to myself from now on.

Won't hear a peep.

Honest.

And you neglect the Jovian Lab Rats, who are most certainly inclusive of these AI's as "Jovians".. So, in fact some of them MAY have been created for purpose.. Rogue Drones could be interupted data transfer signals picked up by random drones, or attempts by any number of agencies who have bits of Sleeper tech (amongst other techs) and toy with the infomorph\artificial intelligence field.

Well, it's a theory. There's more backing it, and far more theories where that came from, but I learned a while ago that when someone says something unpopular they tend to draw a lot of attention (more so if they're actually correct).

Long and the short of it:
1. Mabnen is important in linking the Blood Raiders, Insorum, VILAMO and (more importantly) Ishukone and Zainou.
2. The Jita 4-4 chronicle fills in some blanks if you are a keen observer.

VILAMO may be the creation of a brilliant mind, but what technology is it based on? VILAMO is a very personal name to give to a construct as well. The name is important to a certain ex-CEO of Ishukone. Insorum and Mila were important to him, so they are important to VILAMO.

Oh, and Jowen? You might find these links interesting.

Aether
Aether Drone Hive

On the SOE Arc: Dagan wasn't controlling the Drones. He was doing something worse, and the fact that the four Empires and Rogue Drones are present at the final meeting is important, and not what you think.

Trust me when I say this, it may not make sense at first.

Research. Document. Educate. It's the only way to be sure.

Ehm... yes, I already linked my much more extended research into this previously. Two reports (Algintal Reports 1 - Wrtuk Formur and Algintal Reports 2 - Dronietta) as well as an analysis of the findings (Investigation of the Algintal Rogue Drone Hive). I do not think I can cover that topic much further.

Seemingly you are missing a part here:

Frankly, I do not think Dropbear ever knew much about the Algintal missions before I showed them to him through that A'J project.

And I am convinced Tony G for certain knew nothing about them at all. And as he, and not Dropbear, was the brainiac for the overall storyline I am not going to draw connections between those missions and the "epic" plot.

Anyhow, both Dropbear and Tony are gone and the EVE storyline is up for a new interpretation with the new storyline team.

EDIT: It puzzle me why people do the assumption that all history, past and present, and lore has been defined and written down by CCP. CCP storyline developers have already clarified that if it is not already written in a chronicle, chances are good that nothing has been decided on the topic as they do not want to limit their possibilities with the lore in the future. That is why you cannot really guess right or wrong regarding EVE lore as nobody had decided on an answer when you made the guess.

Further, EVE Prime Fiction is not written by one guy but many people have contributed both writers and developers and many of them are no longer with the company. At some point even CCP lost track of all the pieces which is one of the issues the Fiction Portal has been stated to try to improve upon. I am constantly bashing CCP for not being able to write their lore as a legacy but instead having each and every contributor adjust previous made Prime Fiction according to own needs, so I am not going to buy all these suggestions that some obscure reference in some long forgotten COSMOS mission written by a former CCP programmer when the company was small is obviously and with intention connected to a very well defined plot.

There was no intention. There is no red thread.

BUT, what we as players can contribute with is trying to connect all these lose dots that CCP has made with meaningful argumentation and logical connections. That is what we tried to achieve with A'J. Of course, that work gets really hard when CCP continue to redefine the setting and plot and not accept the restrictions of previously made Prime Fiction. In fact, it seems they have trouble accepting our attempt to connect the dots in the first place, maybe out of fear of losing control.

Sadly, the Content and Storyline team has been minimized and the idea to draw in new players through promoting the IP appears to have been put on ice.

Heck, feel free to speculate wildly in the open like the rest of us. But assuming that what you have is the "truth" and therefore something that should not be shared is taking it to a place where it does not belong.

Sorry if you feel I pick on you, but my goal is to encourage more people to openly speculate and contribute to possible interpretations of Prime Fiction and lore. But I fear many get put off by the cryptic messaging, Wikipedia links out of nowhere and the hints that some official explanation of all things has already been established, out of common sight, and that you are stupid if you have not figured out yet. A shame when the truth is that everything is up in the air and your interpretation is just as well as the next guy.

@Roga: If I stated that a plausible scenario was: Sleeper's originally aimed at the Hyperbole Nexus to transmit information and stellar movement caused the Cobalt Edge to act as an end receiver, whereby the information in transit miss-hit and had to be processed there, instead of the Hyperbole Nexus. <-- then that would be a mad rambling, with plausibility.


Most of your threads/posts are actually cultivating as well as captivating and that in itself is the meaning and spirit of fiction.