Missions & Complexes

Anybody run these regularly? I ran 2 radar and 1 mag yesterday. If you've run them before, you know they spawn several times more ships then a usual sleeper anomaly. I must have destroyed 20-30 ships per site, and got a measly 2 nano ribbons from salvaging all of them. And the loot I got from hacking and analysing was shite too. So my question is: Do radar and mag site sleepers drop inherently less salvage due to the 'other' loots you get in the site, or did I just have some truly horrible luck?

In my experience WH mag and radar sites do not routinely drop nanoribbons. I consider myself lucky if I get even one.

The anoms (in a class 1, at least) drop on average 2 to 3 nanoribbons per site.

I've run a few mags and radars in C1/C2 and never got anything worth the bother. Do they ever give anything worthwhile?

I agree on the 2-3 melted nanos per anom but it seems to swing wildly. Often I get nothing several times in a row then I get 8 or 9 a couple of times. Anyone any idea what the distribution curve looks like (I'm convinced it isn't a bell curve centred on 2.5, or anything like that).

Nanoribbons aside (random = random), the "wrecked XX" items you mention are known as Sleeper Relics, and they are used to build T3 hulls and subsystems. The better condition the relic is in (Wrecked, Malfunctioning or Intact) means a better yield to the T3 builder. So 'wrecked' items are the lowest of the low, and therefore have a pretty crappy sell price (a few 100,000 isk mostly).

Going from C1/2 mags & radars to C3 versions (especially the mag sites) is several levels up on the isk income stakes. For a start, C3's are where you start to find Malfunctioning relics. These are worth 2.5-30mill each. The discrepancy is because some subsystems are more desirable than others. So the Wrecked Weapon Subroutine relic is sought after since it's used to build offensive subsystems.

I once flew off from a Forgotten Frontier Recursive Depot (the hardest site in a C3) with over 400m of blue loot, ribbons and relics including the C3 jackpot "Malfunctioning Hull Section" which is used to build the T3 hulls. That has buy orders in Jita of 71mill, simply because they are rarer to drop than the 5 subsystem relic types.

Intact relics are of course the golden goose, but (correct me if I'm wrong) you'll only find these in the C5 & C6 mag sites.

In short - if you want to make money from mag sites, get into running C3 mags asap. The radars are still, comparatively, not worth nearly as much in terms of crate contents - apart from Caldari Hybrid Tech Decryptors which are worth about 7m per.

I just got 8 ribbons out of a C1 mag site. It's fixed!

Honestly I have not noticed any real correlation between the different sites and ribbon drop. Darn random number generator.

All Sleeper wrecks drop Nanos. It is true that you sometimes get 0 Ribbons out of an Anomaly but 10 out of 5 Frig wrecks in a Ladar Site, but that's all situatial.

Overall the Nano drop rate is **** no matter what you do. Even in our tripple escalated C5 sites we sometimes get under 25 Ribbons.
And yes Mag and Radars usually give less Ribbons and sometimes VERY crappy loot. It can happen that even in a C5 Radar you don't get a single Caldari Decryptor (which are the only ones worth sth)


As for Sleeper Relics, the Hull Section does not drop and will not be found in a Can. You will need to "escalate" the site. Meaning that you will need to warp more people in then needed. This will spawn a Talocan Wreck which is also salvagable and that is what gives you the Hull Section.

Have to say that I never have salvaged an Intact Hull Section, I would very much like to though.


regards

I have found in all the randomness in a C3 and C4 wh's that you tend to get more nanoribons from BS wrecks. Mag and Radar's do generally give less, the salvaged and hacked cans are meant to maybe make up for it.. but unless you into T3 indy stuff.. its not that great. nanoribbons do appear to have come down slightly.. but 1 year or so ago you were lucky to get 5mil each.. so its not that bad, and before you say.. but POS fuel has gone up... we PI all the necessary and a monthly ish corp ice mining op sorts the rest out.

Interesting. I harvest gas on a regular basis, mining less so, and rarely get nanoribbons from wrecks in ladar site and belts.

Funny how we so want to find patterns where there really aren't any.