EVE General Discussion

I remember back in the day CCP had this video of "Ambulation" with a bunch of characters in a corp office. They were huddled around a table with a map of the galaxy floating above it. If this moves more in the direction of providing better corp tools, I am definitely in favor.

Yes. Please explain the joy of sitting docked in a station and spinning your ship.

If CCP want to make the NEX store more popular, they could just put V masks in there, and watch sales skyrocket

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Some of my best posting was done while spinning ships. Posting is more important than internet spaceships.

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Those are some good questions!

I'd think it would be more realistic if we entered the station from a different location than our CQ. I'm also a fan of only having CQ where your Medical Clone is located. Most of us keep that clone near to where our corp is .....

I have a feeling that CCP could reduce the tax on items by using player-to-player interactions? Possibly have an inherent flat mark up in price if you use the Market Window? Possibly have a 'black market' for needed things not found in the Market Window?

I'm betting CCP will hope things like gambling, mini-games, or other interactions will entice people out of CQ's.

I agree. There is a real basic problem in that so far, a station doesn't really exist. Hence there are unlimited ships and players in any station. Thats a bit of a problem when you want to generate a VR environment.... How many doors will the corridor to everyone's CQ have on it? My guess is that they'll solve this with a lift on the other side of the door, but it leaves the situation where the only place you can see your ship is from the other door in your CQ. It also means other players can't visit your CQ. The whole thing is epic fail because your CQ doesn't really exist.

The only real fix for this is to have limited numbers of CQ in a station (and limited numbers of ship births too) with a market set rate for renting them. If you want to keep 100 ships in Jita, its gonna cost ya lots.


The trade window is already free of tax, but a station facility to allow real-time tax free trading between different stations might work. A black market system might be nice too.



Perhaps.... but I'm not convinced. A poker hall will attract some, but for most games why would people not just go play said game elsewhere on the internet? And to be honest, I'd rather CCP spent time on actual real game content than developing new mini-games. If they wanted to create APIs that allow player developed minigames (in the way facebook works) that would be good. Actually facilitating user content in stations is possibly the bast approach - you could even tap into the mobile phone app space with some careful engineering.

Making it an optional nuisance sufficiently desirable that it creates its own critical mass... without misdirecting CCP's time too much.



Please understand the perspective I'm coming from. CCP do not have enough resources to create completely new content that will lead to populated stations. Actually they do, but they've chosen to make dust planetside, for a different target market, who are largely not eve players. Hell CCP do not currently have the resources to maintain FiS minigames that are fairly core, otherwise mining and missioning would not be so dull, people wouldn't be whining about FW, etc etc. PI is almost a completely independent minigame and its been largely ignored - why? Because it doesn't interact with the eve universe very much. Its supposed to be a sandbox - everything affects everything. Adding new stuff that only interacts in terms of common currency is somewhat at odds with the sandbox.



haha - I think this is close to the truth. Neither CCP nor the player base has much of a fkucing clue as to what WiS is for, aside from the pretty shiny.



yep. sad really. clearly a lot of effort gone in but no signs so far of any actual game design elements.

The biggest problem my friend, was delivering a half baked, sorry, 1/10th baked product (read, sitting in a couch staring at a screen) expansion using a new graphical engine that wasn't properly tested.

There are plenty of graphical engines around, pretty damn good ones and properly tested, why reinvent the wheel ?

No one can write anything about Incarna tbh, at tops they can write about what they expect Incarna to be, right now we don't have 'Incarna' we have a room, that's a pickle on what I'd imagine they would like Incarna to be.

Many people are now against Incarna not because of what it is, but because they got fed with an unfinished product that resulted in several problems and crippled functionality, effectively feeling like we were regressing in quality instead of improving the game quality.

Obviously this is my opinion of what I read/listen in the community.

Next expansion – Evecommerce
Incarna Establishments potential
What I would like to see is corporate shop fronts for Banking , Share trading exchange , Gambling shops, Pawn brokers, Mercenary marketplace, Gaming rooms, bars/clubs, Fight clubs, walk in retail outlets, Remote controlled Vehicles for scouting/PVP from control rooms in station, Battle command centres, Customisable paint shops created by players, Player made tattoo’s and wall art designs.
What we need is robust tools to create and manage these environments. Something like a customisable GUI that can create the environment for the walking player and provide services to them. Whatever system is created needs to be accountable to stop the usual ebank scam etc. Something like we have today in RL with collateral needed to guarantee the customer in the event of a corporate theft or scam. Let’s make Incarna worth the 4 years development and not just brush it under the carpet once we have the 4 CQ and a bar. This isn’t FIS its is just a space MMO with big scope.