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Regarding the CSM7 Chairmanship:

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Frying Doom
#581 - 2012-03-29 09:20:53 UTC
You missed the bit about Mittens causing it all, you blame others but no one made him do what he did.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Frying Doom
#582 - 2012-03-29 09:22:36 UTC
David Cedarbridge wrote:

"If you roll in the mud, you get dirty"

Yes you doBig smile
Politics is about perceptions.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

David Cedarbridge
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#583 - 2012-03-29 09:29:03 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
You missed the bit about Mittens causing it all, you blame others but no one made him do what he did.


Mittens provided a grain of sand that those who hated him so much managed to clench into the ugliest diamond they could manage. I find it suspect how nonchalant you are about the idea that people used the game you are playing as disposable ammunition in their crusade against a person they hated well in advance of Fan Fest.
Josef Djugashvilis
#584 - 2012-03-29 09:39:08 UTC
Tthe logic of what mittens is saying is that he can never accept the Chair, as his role as Goon leader is not compatible with being the Chair of the CSM.

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Frying Doom
#585 - 2012-03-29 09:43:05 UTC
David Cedarbridge wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
You missed the bit about Mittens causing it all, you blame others but no one made him do what he did.


Mittens provided a grain of sand that those who hated him so much managed to clench into the ugliest diamond they could manage. I find it suspect how nonchalant you are about the idea that people used the game you are playing as disposable ammunition in their crusade against a person they hated well in advance of Fan Fest.

Actually I just think he kicked sand in so many peoples faces over the years that when he did something really stupid they made sure it was out there for all to see.

The only one to blame for what happened to Mittens is Mittens. You can say people blew it up and they did but if he had not done it in the first place, he wouldn't have thrown away so many votes and so much work. His actions have disgraced the CCM, CCP and even Goonswarm(as people will be throwing this in their faces for years). He has undone any good work he did do because that is not what will be remembered.

He is to blame for his own actions, no one else.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Prince Kobol
#586 - 2012-03-29 09:45:31 UTC
I love watching Goons complaining that this is all political

What a lot of goon need to realise is that its not because we hate you that we do these things

Its because

WE LOVE YOU

Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smile
Josef Djugashvilis
#587 - 2012-03-29 09:48:16 UTC
the meta-gamers have been out meta-gamed

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Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#588 - 2012-03-29 09:54:35 UTC
It would have been the best way forward I guess but you don't make those decisions. You can't expect to pick and choose the consequences of your actions.

In effect you have given CCP no choice in the matter of your removal since you had taken all other steps. This doesn't mean CCP wouldn't have done what it did. But they have to be in control of your punishment, not you, at least in the eyes of the media, players and partners. They are in control after all, especially in the business part of their spaceship business.

The media and attention that you nurtured came back to bite you, that is unfortunate but could have been avoided. Use it as one of the hard lessons of leadership you so often speak of and learn from it and run for CSM8.

But don't go looking in the shadows for others to blame for this, you did this and shaped the course of the debate. Really own
your mistake and you'll get the respect that comes with that.

- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#589 - 2012-03-29 10:00:45 UTC
Yo dawg,I put a meta game in your meta game... so you can keep metagaming the metagame while you get out-metagamed.
Jin MeiHu
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#590 - 2012-03-29 10:58:11 UTC
Seems like hes just feeling sorry for himself. What a loser and despicable human being.
Tantius Achasse
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#591 - 2012-03-29 11:09:57 UTC
Jin MeiHu wrote:
Seems like hes just feeling sorry for himself. What a loser and despicable human being.


Of course he is feeling sorry for himself but I dont think its for the reason you are thinking. I think he realises that if his comment was taken seriously and an already potentially unbalanced person did something drastic, he would feel responsible. The Mittani persona prolly wouldn't give a crap about it but Alex the person probably would (who wouldn't feel bad about causing another human being harm even if indirectly).

Uinuva Karma
Doomheim
#592 - 2012-03-29 11:22:28 UTC
David Cedarbridge wrote:

Mittens provided a grain of sand that those who hated him so much managed to clench into the ugliest diamond they could manage. I find it suspect how nonchalant you are about the idea that people used the game you are playing as disposable ammunition in their crusade against a person they hated well in advance of Fan Fest.


Little bee

I see you miss the voice of your mother
I see you miss the taste of ice-cream
And the sand of the beach between your little toes

Come press your face of sorrow between my ample hills of femininity
I soothe you, I hum a nameless tune for you
Open your well of desperation and weep
Empty your fountain of desperation, let it flow

Open your empty eyes and see your tears run
Down my ebony skin
All the way down to my thirsty paradise

Sun will dry your weary wings,
You will fly again, little bee.

Captain Kirk didn't stay in hisec. 

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#593 - 2012-03-29 11:37:10 UTC
i said to myself, meh maybe he was wasted to almost black out, i walked out about 10 minutes or so before the end because i thought, this is just terrible to see someone as wasted as he was talking so much shite, it was like watching a car crash.
but having read this shite, alex you are indeed a self loving little imature shithead. you needed to step down with grace and respect for the players you are suppposed to represent, you do not and will never represent me.

we all get wasted and talk shite, but we all don't do it on a live stream while representing our game EVE while sitting as the CSM chairman.

goons, watch the video again, be proud of what a **** he was/is.
Ninyania alCladdyth
McLuvin AstroDynamics
#594 - 2012-03-29 12:23:53 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
His actions have disgraced the CCM, CCP and even Goonswarm .


Its a ******* VIDEO GAME... get over it.

Disgraced? ***** please... Bioware is more of a disgrace than Mittens will ever be.
Ninyania alCladdyth
McLuvin AstroDynamics
#595 - 2012-03-29 12:25:16 UTC
Jin MeiHu wrote:
Seems like hes just feeling sorry for himself. What a loser and despicable human being.


says the guy posting on an internet forum about a person he does not, and will not ever, know personally.
Smiling Menace
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#596 - 2012-03-29 12:41:48 UTC
Kitfox Mikakka wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
Not good enough.


Nothing short of Minttani thrown on a cross was going to placate you, Darius III, and various other people with agendas to push. Truly shameful, like my posting


I thought your posting was pretty good actually...too good for a Gewn. You spai? Lol
VaMei
Meafi Corp
#597 - 2012-03-29 12:43:12 UTC
@The Mittani

Probably the best possible choice.

IMO, the game is better with you as the villain you choose to play, and we need someone on the CSM that has no fear of getting dirty when an ugly job needs to be done.

That said, from the PR side of things, neither Eve, the CSM, nor CCP needs the baggage of having 'public enemy number one' in such a visible position.
Lt Pizi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#598 - 2012-03-29 12:47:34 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
I love watching Goons complaining that this is all political

What a lot of goon need to realise is that its not because we hate you that we do these things

Its because

WE LOVE YOU

Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smile



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Highauger's animated corpse
Jove Observation And Neutrality Negotiations Act
#599 - 2012-03-29 12:56:00 UTC
Jin MeiHu wrote:
Seems like hes just feeling sorry for himself. What a loser and despicable human being.


But not an alt coward f**k
SojournerRover
Explorer Corps
#600 - 2012-03-29 13:01:43 UTC
Delegado Cero wrote:
Darius III wrote:
This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.

I ask you to look beyond your power mad aspirations and do the right thing for us all: Step down from the CSM so that we can begin the healing process and get some closure. Mainstream gaming media will adore you for it and the players will rejoice. Merely abdicating the Chair is a token gesture that will be viewed with cynicism not from just your detractors, but by everyone who is familiar with who your really are. I am outraged that you think this does anything to address the severity of what you have done to us all.

Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right.


It would be unfair to 10,058 voters if he didn't represent them.


This is what happens when alcohol is involved and you are so loaded you pick up the asshat by mistake.

I vote for two step to be put on the chair.

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