EVE New Citizens Q&A

Is a profession preferred by retards going to make you rich? (I have no idea if he mad that up.) Mining used to be done mostly by botters. That's supposed to change with dayly bans now. How prices will settle nobody can know. Even if it becomes viable (again) you will be citizen 2nd class. Expect to be shot and pushed around.

You can easily make 10M/h with lvl2 missions (if you know what you are doing). If you min/max it proper you can get up to 20M/h.

Salvage material used to be worth 5x as much as it does today. (Ninja salvager are idiots.)

At the other hand as getting a lot of money seam to be your only concern it doesn't really matter what you do. You wont count yourself among the super rich because that requires cunning and guns. Money is a utility to gain power. With power comes money. You break that vicious cycle with words heard by the right ears. Farming until your eyes bleed wont get you there.

If you are pushing it you can get there in 12h. The trick is to do the lvl1 arc and then 1 lvl1 storyline mission and you got the standing to talk to all lvl2 agents of one faction.

There are quite a few chat channels to ask questions in game. Folk can even link agent names for your there.

Making ISk is a mean to an end, try not to make it the end of your game. Eve does have pve, but at some point, missions all look the same and can become quite as boring as mining.
Do not discard the MMO part, there are many people around you and a lot of fun to have with them, you'll surely need an income to fund your ships and stuff, but you can learn a lot about the game with others and joining a corporation can get you access to a whole new dimension of the game.

Mining is in no way the most profitable activity, and in my opinion it should never be the focus of an end game scenario. But there hasn't been a better time in recent memory to grind some rocks if you are a new player. Mineral prices are skyrocketing. The only problem for a new player is that raw ore prices have yet to fully reflect the mineral boom. If you intend on using mining as your main source of income I would recommend training some reprocessing skills, specifically Refining, Refinery Efficiency and Veldspar Processing. Veldspar is rich in Tritanium and is currently the most profitable rock in high-sec.

Then you will want to choose a system where you will focus your mining operations. Go to the station in that system and determine which NPC corporation owns it. From here your goal will be to raise your standings with that corp as much as possible, to raise your net reprocessing yield. Use your agent finder to find agents belonging to that corp, and keep in mind that they will likely be spread out across many systems other than the one you currently reside in.

And finally, the Giant Secure Container is most certainly viable. You can anchor it and set a password which prevents people from stealing from you. But in order to anchor it, you will need to be in a system that is 0.6 or lower.

Clarification: Also usable in 0.7

Also, GSCs will go *POOF* if you don't access them for 30 (if I remember correctly) days (edit: while anchored in space - no shelf life in your hangar or cargo bay).

Well, once you're trained into a decent cruiser, you're essentially invincible in L2 and can probably clear them in like 5-10 minutes. That's 12 missions and hour, potentially.

More generally, mining can certainly be part of your endgame if you want, for a fairly specific type of end-game. It generally isn't an isk-generator, but it's a big part of being totally self-sufficient in your wormhole if you're going for the full nomad lifestyle. I use it to make up holes in my reprocessing supply out in NPC 0.0 so that I can manufacture ammo and such as well.

But no, I wouldn't advise taking it up as a primary career early in the game, it's rather boring after a while.

1.) Mining is by far the worst possible income maker, missions pay way better so does ninja salvaging or any other thing you do. (And believe me I know, I'm started as a miner but moved on to more excitement thing and better paying things, I now only mine when I need minerals for production).

2.) You can't anchor / password protect a GSC in 0.9 space, period. For anchoring of cans you need a system of 0.7 or lower. If a can is anchored and you put a password on it (hint: password as the password is not a good one) your ore is perfectly safe, keep in mind that GSC are rather limited when mining.

3.) What are these 2 words in your post: End-game and Gold. I don't remember them, think you are talking about some other MMO that is made by company called Blizzard.

4.) As said, missions pay way better then high-sec mining. Where to go all depends on for which corp you want to do missions (virtually every single NPC station in EVE has mission agents in it of which you can run missions from (with the right standings of course). Though you may need other ships for it, mining missions let you mine, distribution missions let you ship stuff around and security missions let you shoot NPC rats. The security missions are the best paid as you also collect bounties from shooting pirate NPC.

5.) Your 1m/hour looks big but a new player running better paid stuff can make that easily, on the people stealing stuff from you while mining. They usually don't do it for the ISK (they have better paid income) they do it to annoy you and hope you shoot them, means they can shoot back and they are only after you ship in the end.

6.) Mining while watching a movie is NOT passive money making. You still have to watch your ship from time to time to warp to the station and unload your cargo or move to the next asteroid after you cleared teh one you were mining.

***This might sound a bit like ranting on mining. But I actually still love to do that from time to time and totally enjoy the mining/industry profession. But mining in high-sec is one of the worst income generators in EVE, mainly cause of the amount of people (and bots) doing it means prices are really low.

Well I consider end game where you've got a ship worth millions, have hundreds of days skills wise, etc etc. you Catch my drift?

General rule of EVE: If you don't enjoy doing something, then do something else.

If you enjoy mining, then by all means mine. If you hate mining, then don't. If you are only mining to earn ISK, then I recommend you stop heading down that path.

There are many ways to earn ISK in EVE. Find the ones you enjoy and are good at. Example: Hisec missions offer considerably more ISK than hisec mining, as does exploration. High-end wormhole sites can earn you literally billion an evening (trust me on this).

Personally I mine (I have my own mining fleet of multiple accounts), do missions, build and sell stuff, haul, and play the markets. Depends what I'm in the mood for.

Akita T's Beginner's guide to * MAKING ISK * in EVE-Online