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Call for rerun of CSM 7 Election
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Manji Lee
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#141 - 2012-03-29 07:16:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Manji Lee
Cool story bro! Don't worry Lapine, I'm Chribba after all! LolLolLol

But, to be honest. The last term of the CSM. Was the best one, yet! Minus a few suggestion that was made to the dev's that would of have an negative impact on eve if brought forth. Roll
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#142 - 2012-03-29 07:18:33 UTC
Kyle Myr wrote:
Kiwi Momaki wrote:
Ha ha your actually serious... Keep them tears flowing... Big smile


You can't read, or spell. At the end of the day it's space pixels in a game made by a company. I'm pointing out a few things because other people seem to have missed them, and I'm bored.

Honestly, http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/2012/03/so-they-made-me-their-chief.html says it better, and covers what probably will happen. As far as my alliance is concerned, Mittani being removed from the CSM is probably the best thing that could happen for us, in terms of morale. The only way CCP is likely to actually call a rerun of the election is if the vast majority of the remaining elected CSM members resign over this.

Either way, interesting times, and business as usual, all at the same time.



Isn't spinning this as a good thing in direct contrast with your foaming rabble demanding he be reinstated confusing the Hive?
I was was just kidding about the CCD, really...Shocked

Signature removed - CCP Eterne
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#143 - 2012-03-29 07:18:37 UTC
Kyle Myr wrote:
If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process.


CCP didn't choose to do it. The mittani chose to remove himself by being a ******* moron.

Mr Epeen Cool
Le Cardinal
ECP Rogues
#144 - 2012-03-29 07:26:08 UTC
Kyle Myr wrote:
If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process, who received more votes than the next 3 candidates combined, it calls into question the whole election's validity at representing those who voted.

Rerun the election, or the results are worthless.


lol

So let me get you right. The Mittani gets elected as csm chairman with 10000 votes. He then does something out of order that cost him the csm chair. And you demand a reelection because your candidate screwed up? Please tell me this also work in real life. We have a few politicians i dont like. I will call for a reelection.

What was it goons spammed the other threads with? Oh yeah now i recall: A boo a boo a boo
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy
Caldari State
#145 - 2012-03-29 07:33:36 UTC
Le Cardinal wrote:
Kyle Myr wrote:
If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process, who received more votes than the next 3 candidates combined, it calls into question the whole election's validity at representing those who voted.

Rerun the election, or the results are worthless.


lol

So let me get you right. The Mittani gets elected as csm chairman with 10000 votes. He then does something out of order that cost him the csm chair. And you demand a reelection because your candidate screwed up? Please tell me this also work in real life. We have a few politicians i dont like. I will call for a reelection.

What was it goons spammed the other threads with? Oh yeah now i recall: A boo a boo a boo

Oh look, this post again. We need MOAR comparisons to RL politics please. Dont be shy, badposters! This shithole of a forum is your stage.
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
#146 - 2012-03-29 07:58:17 UTC
no

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RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#147 - 2012-03-29 07:59:37 UTC
Aiden Andraste wrote:
Le Cardinal wrote:
Kyle Myr wrote:
If CCP chooses to remove the winner of this process, who received more votes than the next 3 candidates combined, it calls into question the whole election's validity at representing those who voted.

Rerun the election, or the results are worthless.


lol

So let me get you right. The Mittani gets elected as csm chairman with 10000 votes. He then does something out of order that cost him the csm chair. And you demand a reelection because your candidate screwed up? Please tell me this also work in real life. We have a few politicians i dont like. I will call for a reelection.

What was it goons spammed the other threads with? Oh yeah now i recall: A boo a boo a boo

Oh look, this post again. We need MOAR comparisons to RL politics please. Dont be shy, badposters! This shithole of a forum is your stage.

'

Goon pet alt complains about RL creeping into the game.

Hilarious.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#148 - 2012-03-29 08:05:30 UTC
Agreed. A rerun of teh whoel process from teh start is necessary really, fully a fifth of teh voters need to revote for someone.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Heet Crusher
Drunk Chaos
#149 - 2012-03-29 08:15:49 UTC
Can i get some goggles up in here. Tears are just too much. Goonies just lite some candles and sing kumbaya.
Hiram Alexander
State Reprisal
#150 - 2012-03-29 08:22:05 UTC
If Riverini - a man who'd openly published detailed guides on how to bot without getting caught - had been banned from the CSM for the same offence as Alex, would that ~10058~ tactical block of voters suddenly demand a re-holding of elections, or a re-vote for his ~1067~ constituents...?

My guess is no chance... I'd be willing to bet that they'd be pissing themselves laughing at both him, and his voters... And so would I.

What if it had been the even less loved Xenuria... Would there be a righteous wave of e-honour on his behalf, threatening un-subs if his ~200~ (wtf?) voters weren't allowed to recast their, possibly insane, votes...?

Hell, no.

I've already made my thoughts known on the event itself, but on the subject of re-voting. No... I can only speak for myself, but in my opinion, as much as it must hurt for those who now feel their votes were wasted, I don't believe a re-vote should be allowed.

The ~10058~ chose to vote tactically, and put all their eggs in one basket... The handle fell off...

Make an omelette.
Esh Slyyn
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#151 - 2012-03-29 08:40:15 UTC
We're not voting for a "King". The CSM 7 has enough members remaining - and who were elected aswell - to get the job done. Rather than trying to flood again and again, The Mittani electors should think about their vote, and try to make a smarter choice for 2013.

TL;DR : As your Guru said "Deal with it".
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#152 - 2012-03-29 08:41:27 UTC
Nope no re-vote is required. The chair should go to Two Step or the council should elect a new leader.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Zowie Powers
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#153 - 2012-03-29 08:42:20 UTC
No, it calls into question the validity of the voters who voted for him.

ATX: The best of the rest.
Frying Doom
#154 - 2012-03-29 08:45:29 UTC
No need to revote. Or should we re vote every time a CSM steps down or is considered unfit. We would be up to CSM 20+ by now.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#155 - 2012-03-29 08:51:40 UTC
Aiden Andraste wrote:

Oh look, this post again. We need MOAR comparisons to RL politics please. Dont be shy, badposters! This shithole of a forum is your stage.

Ahahahaahaaaa!! You don't sayyyyy!

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#156 - 2012-03-29 08:52:53 UTC
I don't see a need for a re-run.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Karim alRashid
Starboard.
#157 - 2012-03-29 09:00:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Karim alRashid
Rodj Blake wrote:
I don't see a need for a re-run.


I don't see the need of CSM, where CCP arbitrarily sacks off representatives, who are unsuitable to CCP's PR agenda.

Pain is weakness leaving the body http://www.youtube.com/user/AlRashidKarim/videos
Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#158 - 2012-03-29 09:01:59 UTC
There is no need to revote.

Your votes were not wasted you voted someone in, that person's actions got them removed.

As far as I can see the only reason you want a re-election is so that you can elect someone that will be sympathetic to your own corps views. And for some just to waste CCPs time.
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#159 - 2012-03-29 09:04:17 UTC
Goons are like NPC alts, they don't count
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#160 - 2012-03-29 09:15:41 UTC
Karim alRashid wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
I don't see a need for a re-run.


I don't see the need of CSM, where CCP arbitrarily sacks off representatives, who are unsuitable to CCP's PR agenda.


heh, funny. I see a need for the CSM to conform to the rules. You break em, you lose your seat, happend before and will happen again. Its pretty sad how Goonswarm is taking this, I thought they where ~hardcore~. This isn't anything personal, its just reality.

You frack up, you deal with the consequences that follow from that behaviour and you move on.The consequences are not what you think they should be, they are what the powers that be tell you they are.

The Mittani thought he could fabricate his own punishment for something like this, and ~manage~ this. But that is quite delusional.

I don't like that the Fanfest was dragged through the mud like this, I don't like that the CSM was dragged through the mud like this and I certainly think The Mittani would have made a great CSM chair, but he fracked himself, hard. You can't turn that back.

Move on and run for CSM8 (burning Jita sounds like a nice distraction, can't wait to see it)

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