EVE General Discussion

Yo everybody, listened to Mittani's speech "State of the Goonian"

Start of it is a bit, well cheezy. Mainly the part about being thrown under a bus. I am surprized he didn't expect it, but not what this is about.

There is a very good point about whether ccp will allow, and promote burn jita, or push it down. Let us discuss it civily, since there isn't one like that.

Alright, a general terrorist war on the main hub, general and we know it is coming. Personally, this would be a great thing for eve. I like the random, unexpected and stuff like this the most (even though I wouldn't particapate myself.

WIth one month of warning, and the market people used to moving stuff, it won't crash down eve (except for the botters or what not) I think it will be awesome. It will be authentic grief.

Just a call out to the goons however, Burn Jita. Will be awesome for Eve. Start following players or whatever to get repeated ganks, not so awesome for Eve.

I think CCP will do whatever is needed to protect the game.
While I am going to find halarity at every turn of this soap opera, I can't help but wonder why you kids think this will have a positive effect?

CCP overreacted in their decision to completely nullify 10000 player opinions. Whether they want to step up that kneejerk response a second time remains to be seen. This has nothing to do with positive or negative. It has everything to do with whether or not the CSM is relevant and whether CCP is shifting toward PR/marketing friendly carebear land or not.

I'm am supporting CCP by standing by their decision to remove the offender from the CSM, you all should do the same!

While I think rank&file Goons were the biggest losers in this scandal, their shitposting armada was terrible and managed first to make them look like parroting wannabe cyber-tough guys, then immediately crying like babies, what happens in game in the limitations of EULA/TOS is not griefing or "disrupting game experience".

They can go camp Jita for years if they want to, and if CCP intervenes I will also ******* unsub.

Not empty quoting.

Ban all players involved in the 2009 PR- Hellcamp.

Good comment. Myself, as for positive, if done to a limited extent, it will be interesting press. From an out of game perspective depending on how it is posted around of course. From a personal opinion, eve sometimes suffers from being too static, the disruption in the markets will actually be beneficial to industry players in the form of increased prices once it is all done. It will get some stress relief for players, and for a final standpoint, there is one month for players to form up an anti goon coalition, war declarations and the like.




This is one example. The burning of jita will be more difficult than people think. Hulk ganking works because of security status. The response time is slower from concord in the 0.5 and 0.6 spaces. Jita is 1.0, concord there almost instant if not already on grid. Any gank attack will only have one shot. There will be alot of fire, burning hot and bright, and a whole lot of wrecked ships. I have no doubt that it will be planned, and there will be firepower, but the quote above is quite the thing to consider.

The firepower to bring to burn jita will be alot more expensive than a few alts with thrashers in asteroid belts. It would mean battlecruisers and more manpower, for less damage output. Even with the massive goonwallet, the time they can spend is finite. Tier 3 ships, if they keep em going are going to be a few hundred mil an hour, provided they can stay fitted. Manpower will be limited as a mass outpouring will have people counter attacking. Good for eve, nullsec wars are good for everybody. Goons finish and lay waste in nullsec more. Their war declaration in their goonian speech shows. More ass kicking, less noob shooting.

The economy and the grief tactics are not supposition. I have said it in industry talks about ganking, but when I ran a corp for some indies a couple years ago, during hulkageddon was the best profit we had. We played smart however, and ran our ops based around that. Anti ice mining too. Drove the fuel prices high for a while, many lost isk, some were very dismays I am sorry to say. But afterwards, the market was so high others made more than they lost. Those that prepped against the gank that is and planned around it.

Nope - the candidate the 10000 players voted for did that of his own volition.

Yup goons need to HTFU.

Never knew they would be such babies.