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New Dev Blog: The 2012 Alliance Panel at Fanfest

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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2012-03-28 22:41:58 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Navigator
Fanfest 2012 was a phenomenal success with player participation at an all-time high and a greater focus than ever on EVE Online. Unfortunately we had an incident at the Alliance Panel which has resulted in us setting out new rules and policies for future Fanfests. CCP Navigator and CCP Darth Beta explain how EVE is growing up in this dev blog.
Zhentar
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-03-28 22:47:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Zhentar
Burn Everything. This is a terrible decision and had been resolved by the offender.
RogueAnt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-03-28 22:48:36 UTC
Hmm.
ShadowMaster
#4 - 2012-03-28 22:50:01 UTC
Thanks for the update CCP. For the most part I always enjoy the alliance panel and get a good laugh. I left before the end of it this time though so missed this. I really hope you don't eliminate it completely, to much fun to be had at it.
Oliver Duncan
B0rthole
#5 - 2012-03-28 22:52:43 UTC
Quote:
Yet out of control drunkenness and calls for harassment have no places in such a culture.


This is the entirety of Eve culture.
Nao Oikawasan
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-03-28 22:57:25 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Fanfest 2012 was a phenomenal success with player participation at an all-time high and a greater focus than ever on EVE Online. Unfortunately we had an incident at the Alliance Panel which has resulted in us setting out new rules and policies for future Fanfests. CCP Navigator and CCP Darth Beta explain how EVE is growing up in this dev blog.


My vote, as well as those of 17% of those who bothered to participate, were simply tossed in the trash?

I'm not sure that even the American Democratic machine in Chicago has ever been responsible for nullifying that large a voting block.

I would like to apply my vote to another character. I'm suspect others may as well.
Nao Oikawasan
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-03-28 22:58:15 UTC


My vote, as well as those of 17% of those who bothered to participate, were simply tossed in the trash?

I'm not sure that even the American Democratic machine in Chicago has ever been responsible for nullifying that large a voting block.

I would like to apply my vote to another character. I'm suspect others may as well.
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#8 - 2012-03-28 22:59:59 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Fanfest 2012 was a phenomenal success with player participation at an all-time high and a greater focus than ever on EVE Online. Unfortunately we had an incident at the Alliance Panel which has resulted in us setting out new rules and policies for future Fanfests. CCP Navigator and CCP Darth Beta explain how EVE is growing up in this dev blog.


You'd have 10,000 Dislikes right about now if you had the option to do so.

Where I am.

Oliver Duncan
B0rthole
#9 - 2012-03-28 23:04:19 UTC
CCCP is living up to it's name.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#10 - 2012-03-28 23:10:55 UTC
+1

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Revii Lagoon
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-03-28 23:11:51 UTC
You just threw yourself into a massive **** storm, be prepared. Jita Riots were nothing, Jita WILL burn this time. You also just **** all over the CSM and everything that they worked so hard to build up, gg CCP.
Raneru
Blades of Dawn
Stribog Clade
#12 - 2012-03-28 23:14:10 UTC
I actually forgot to get my vote in for CSM 7, which as it turns out wan't really a bad thing as it was pretty much a waste of time.
Li Malak
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-03-28 23:18:10 UTC
Your so-called 'Director for Marketing' should resign now, because CCP has ****** itself by banning The Mittani from CSM 7. You have disenfranchised over 10,000 accounts.
Utamary
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-03-28 23:23:05 UTC
Goon Tears are priceless
Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#15 - 2012-03-28 23:24:20 UTC
Interesting maths at work here.

If running a BOT first offence is a minor penalty (2 week temp ban) then harassment is a double-minor penalty (30 day temp ban).

So what's the equivalent of 5 minutes for fighting?
Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-03-28 23:28:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Zagdul
Rules for removed candidates please.

I want to put my vote elsewhere thanks.


EDIT: Welcome to the slippery slope of the death of a sandbox. Grats CCP on listening to your advertisers/overlords.


EDIT2: The W-I-S is an in-game character.

This is a game about destroying, dehumanizing and griefing in-game personas. Had he said this dude's RL name, I'd agree, he would have it coming. However, this dude's RL name was never used.

FREE MITTENS!

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement

Vincent VanDamme
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-03-28 23:32:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent VanDamme
Li Malak wrote:
Your so-called 'Director for Marketing' should resign now, because CCP has ****** itself by banning The Mittani from CSM 7. You have disenfranchised over 10,000 accounts.


That isn't how elections work, is it?

I understand disagreeing with the decisions, who wouldn't at times? But I have to say that the sense of entitlement coming as a result of this is quite staggering.

The votes he got were amazing: a real strong showing of support for the work he did on CSM 6. And he did some awesome work with a lot of good people on the CSM.

Those votes don't mean that he is immune to rules, does it? It doesn't mean that the TOS and rules at Fanfest no longer applies. Popular votes don't give carte blanche. does it? Be reasonable here. This is a pretty unique situation, and what occurred was a mistake all told.

That being said: I hope your CEO comes back with renewed vigor, and doesn't take this to heart. I find it very sad the amount of hate thrown around, and i could see him being brought down by what has been pretty harsh character assassination in the gaming press. That i don't think is cool. Heck, i hope i am never called up on things ive said when ive been pissed. Id probably get sacked, or worse. And that's just me. We all make mistakes, and we take them on the chin, and move on. I hope he will. So as i have not paid :tenbux: if you can send him my best at least, i would appreciate it.

Be that as it may, i was looking froward to the GSF Jita interdiction. It'll be interesting to see the effects of decentralising the markets. So good luck with that.

Take care,
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-03-28 23:43:24 UTC
Allow me to translate this....

A “frat house” type presentation style may have been well-matched for a younger EVE Online, when there was a smaller community roaming the stars.

CCP: Now that we have to bow to pressure of companies larger than ourselves, we are going to start removing the magic that makes Fanfest great.


Just wondering CCP, what was the magic number you decided to sell out at?

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve.

Bagehi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-03-28 23:44:31 UTC
This will not end well.
Sustaine
A-Fission Industries
#20 - 2012-03-28 23:45:40 UTC
I like Mittani but he deserves it. You voted for him, he sank your vote. Blame him.

No he didn't mention a RL name when he called on everyone to grief a guy to push him to suicide, but he was clearly reaching through the game to affect a player in RL (kidding or not). Same result.

Yes botting is bad but this was worse. Botters cheat but really only affect the game, not RL (unless you make money off it - and CCP comes down hard on people who make RL money on botting.) Mittani (fed by the Goon reputation, and the "we're going to break your game" motto of that corp) stepped into it.

This kind of error marks a game for years. Especially among other non-eve gamers - the ones who might have sometime want to play the game. It's a a PR blunder right when EVE needs to open up to more players.

Good Fanfest btw.
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