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Regarding the CSM7 Chairmanship:

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Darius III
Interstellar eXodus
The Initiative.
#161 - 2012-03-28 21:36:49 UTC
47Magnum wrote:
Darius III wrote:
so that we can begin the healing process .


I couldn't keep reading past this.

10/10

I'm done with the internet for today.


At last someone who understands me

Hmmm

Gordon Fell
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#162 - 2012-03-28 21:36:55 UTC
Darius III wrote:
Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right..


Pot calling the kettle black.
Sang-in Tiers
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#163 - 2012-03-28 21:37:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Sang-in Tiers
This is sad. Mittani since you are stepping down I ******* hope you make New Eden burn like never before. I'm no goon but what makes this game interesting is what you bring us.

EDIT: Darius III you shouldn't be CSM either so don't talk so much you ******* half-wit.
Ice Fist
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#164 - 2012-03-28 21:37:17 UTC
Xython wrote:
Ice Fist wrote:
Constantinee wrote:
The Crimson Invaider wrote:

~DEKLIEN BY FEBRUARY~


Hey hows the tenal fight going?


Since were really not putting any effort into it, I'd say 3 titan kills is doing pretty well.


They didn't want those titans anyway


~Didn't kill us fast enough~
The Crimson Invaider
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#165 - 2012-03-28 21:37:23 UTC
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Sindel Pellion
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#166 - 2012-03-28 21:37:36 UTC
Radax Glenn wrote:
BS.

CCP: Ban Mittens. You know it's the right thing to do.


Says the guy who doesn't even comment with his main.

Singing Songs about Eve since 2012: http://soundcloud.com/sindel-pellion

David Carel
SWAT Team Sales Consultants
#167 - 2012-03-28 21:37:38 UTC
Darius III wrote:
47Magnum wrote:
Darius III wrote:
so that we can begin the healing process .


I couldn't keep reading past this.

10/10

I'm done with the internet for today.


At last someone who understands me


:cripesduck:
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#168 - 2012-03-28 21:37:42 UTC
David Carel wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
David Carel wrote:
Where exactly do I have "double standards"?

You're in the CFC. That's all they need.


Yea, arguing with people like him is pointless.

Silly me, still having hopes :smith:

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

So is clicking on Jita Park forums.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Princess Bride
SharkNado
#169 - 2012-03-28 21:37:55 UTC
For clarification, the two distinctly separate parts of this post:

Part A - In which The Mittani references the real reason he's stepping down, namely him getting drunk and urging thousands of people on live feed to find and encourage someone to commit suicide.

The Mittani wrote:
Though I have received many letters of support (my inbox is full of these, and for them I thank you) and the major bloggers have called for me to remain on as Chair, there are still some who doubt the sincerity of my apology to the player concerned, who - unlike those attempting to make hay from my mistake - is the person that matters here. I said that I would resign; to demonstrate the sincerity of my words and my apology, I will do just that.


,,,and Part B - In which he fabricates a brand new reason to step down, as if he was going to decline the chairmanship all along. No mention of the real reason from here down. Except the part where he implies that he was "just mak[ing] a ***** joke" at Fanfest, right at the end. Of course that's what all bullies say.

Quote:
With the increasingly high profile of the CSM in the wake of the Incarna Emergency Summit and the amazing turnout we had for the CSM7 elections, I have come to the conclusion that my two roles in EVE - that of the Chairman of the CSM as Alexander Gianturco, and the leader of Goonswarm as "The Mittani" are increasingly incompatible. It is, fundamentally, a problem of hats.

As the leader of Goonswarm I must be willing to make ruthless decisions and take actions that many players find objectionable - griefing, ganking, scamming, 'dishonorable' fleet tactics, espionage, metagaming, blowing up everyone who tries to mine Gallente Ice, sponsoring Hulkageddon, et cetera - whatever it takes to defend my people in this, the most exceedingly hostile galaxy to grace the internet. As Darius JOHNSON, the previous Goonswarm leader once said, "[Goonswarm] is not here to destroy /the/ game, but /your/ game.

Yet as Chairman of the CSM and Alexander Gianturco, I need to put a good face on CCP's experimental player democracy and keep my nose clean. Inevitably, these two roles conflict with one another; when Goonswarm does what it does in EVE, this reflects on the CSM as a whole, purely due to my position as both Chairman and alliance leader. If I abandon the brutalist tactics of an alliance leader in hopes of keeping the CSM's image pristine, I hamstring my people ingame and do a disservice to the line members who rely on me. In addition, the enemies of Goonswarm assault the CSM and CCP itself unfairly due to the in-game actions of our alliance.

After the successful restructuring of CCP, I am convinced that most of the hard work of the CSM is already done - CCP is now focusing on spaceships instead of avatars, and the success of CSM6 has led to a solid and competent crop of player representatives in CSM7 with a much greater turnout, demonstrating ever-more faith and trust from the playerbase in the concept of the CSM. This changes things for the CSM, as well as the Chairman title

During Goonswarm's highly successful Gallente Ice Interdiction there were calls for my resignation as Chairman; those calls increased when Goonswarm began to use false supercap sales as a method of closing the gap between us and our in-game enemies' supercap fleets. We are now planning an attempt to destroy Jita itself. All of these actions are entirely legitimate within the brutal world of EVE, yet, in the coming months, if I continue to hold the title of Chairman, CCP will be enduring one PR nightmare after another as Goonswarm's in-game actions unfairly reflect back upon the CSM as a whole through the Chairman title. It is increasingly important that the Chair be a ‘good citizen’ in the game itself - and I cannot be a good citizen and simultaneously lead my alliance of magnificent bastards.

With CSM7's term beginning on April 4th, I now exercise my right as the winner of the election with 10,058 votes to decline the office of Chairman. It will then be up to CSM7 as a group to decide how to proceed regarding the Chair. As a member of the CSM without a title, what I do as the leader of Goonswarm will no longer unfairly reflect on the CSM as a whole - leaving me and my people free to do as we please without needing to consider corporate, political, or media ramifications every time we make a **** joke, offend someone, or sell a supercap made of vapor.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/

Ice Fist
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#170 - 2012-03-28 21:38:09 UTC
Darius III wrote:
47Magnum wrote:
Darius III wrote:
so that we can begin the healing process .


I couldn't keep reading past this.

10/10

I'm done with the internet for today.


At last someone who understands me


Gah, nobody understands (or likes) you.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#171 - 2012-03-28 21:38:12 UTC
David Carel wrote:
Darius III wrote:
47Magnum wrote:
Darius III wrote:
so that we can begin the healing process .


I couldn't keep reading past this.

10/10

I'm done with the internet for today.

At last someone who understands me

:cripesduck:

I'd rather not understand him actually.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#172 - 2012-03-28 21:38:16 UTC
SeaBassSA wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
Not good enough.


Tough *******.

Machine Delta
State War Academy
Caldari State
#173 - 2012-03-28 21:38:23 UTC
Darius III wrote:
This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.

I ask you to look beyond your power mad aspirations and do the right thing for us all: Step down from the CSM so that we can begin the healing process and get some closure. Mainstream gaming media will adore you for it and the players will rejoice. Merely abdicating the Chair is a token gesture that will be viewed with cynicism not from just your detractors, but by everyone who is familiar with who your really are. I am outraged that you think this does anything to address the severity of what you have done to us all.

Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right.

Soon in this thread you will see many goonies posting like mad, suggesting there was an NDA breach in CSM6, which of course CCP denied, dont let them turn this into something about ME this is about how Mittani's apology was not sincere, about how he cares nothing for the overall health of Eve, and just shows how empty his apology is.

In B4 1,000 goon alts post support and make laughable accusations about something NDA something that was shown to be untrue and denied by Dev post.

PS This is but a minor defeat for Mittani, but the goonies are going to howl all night. Like music to my ears.


I like to judge a man by his actions. Let's take a look at Mittani.

He's popular and famous (infamous) and has worked hard to make the CSM carry more weight than it used to. The CSM's that he has been on have lead to positive progress for the game.

He made a public statement that was very much out of line and then apologized for it publicly and privately. After that, despite getting a >50% mandate in a jungle primary decided to step down as the chair in order to help the CSM and CCP save face. Weighing his actions not his words, we can deduce that he made a mistake and has made amends.

Now, let's take a look at Darius III.

Elected to CSM6, leaked material protected by NDA to a news source run by someone of questionable mental condition. Implemented a spam campaign in game to garner votes, also implicated in a pay for vote scandal. Annihilated in the next election, failed to retain spot. Now sits on forums with pre-written statements to antagonize his political opponents.

If we judge by actions you're basically a complete failure in more or less every sense of life that can be reflected in this video game. What have you done besides make bad posts and be a bitter forum troll? What will you do now that your free ride is over?
Nylith Empyreal
Sutar Rein
#174 - 2012-03-28 21:38:27 UTC
Prepare for threadnaught number 3!

Who's the more foolish the fool or the fool who replies to him?

Andrea Griffin
#175 - 2012-03-28 21:38:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Griffin
Darius III wrote:
TL:DR I am not sorry at all, look how great Goonies are, business as usual. So much for the sincerity of the apology.

~deal with it~
While the goonswarm forum spamming is pretty atrocious (but not unexpected), the members of the CSM really should have a united front on the issue. Get together, come to a mutually agreeable resolution / statement, and stick to it. Other CSM members expressed displeasure with Mittani's situation with far more class than this.

Otherwise you just end up looking like bickering brats. If you don't put this issue behind you then you, and the CSM as a whole, will be far less effective.

At least you said what you wanted, you own it, and you're not sorry about it. That's more respectable than using weasel words to back out and shift blame.
Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
#176 - 2012-03-28 21:38:30 UTC
Xython wrote:

What's really funny is since hte CSM (sans DArius, but who cares about Darius) don't really agree with Mittani refusing the chair, welp, he's still effectively the chair. It's all about respect, you see.

Not realy about respect.

More about the ability to motivate & activate people ;).

If you are the leader of a wtf6000+ man ally with wtfMORE blues (mostly TEST guys) you just have the background to bring more voices then anyone else. Don't know but I bet you guys use a voice chat or normal chat or mailing list .. one call from your leader and this forum explode ;).

Do you need to respect him for this? Not realy.
But you are GOON and so I'm sure you guys have a lot of fun atm trolling+spamming here :).

Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!

Lenrir Andven
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#177 - 2012-03-28 21:38:33 UTC
Darius III wrote:
47Magnum wrote:
Darius III wrote:
so that we can begin the healing process .


I couldn't keep reading past this.

10/10

I'm done with the internet for today.


At last someone who understands me


Hold on, so you wished for half your post to be ignored?

I make sure to work further on your wishes and ignore the whole lot.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#178 - 2012-03-28 21:39:04 UTC
Sindel Pellion wrote:
Radax Glenn wrote:
BS.

CCP: Ban Mittens. You know it's the right thing to do.

Says the guy who doesn't even comment with his main.

The ~evil~ ~goonies~ will get him ~~~ scaryy~~~

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#179 - 2012-03-28 21:39:09 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
words


Please restrict your bleating to General Discussion - this is not the place for it.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Sindel Pellion
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#180 - 2012-03-28 21:39:22 UTC
Gordon Fell wrote:
Darius III wrote:
Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right..


Darius being a nutless ********.


FTFY

Singing Songs about Eve since 2012: http://soundcloud.com/sindel-pellion