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Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4041 - 2012-03-28 20:56:55 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Alexander Taos wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
*kicks back and waits for the CSM decision*

Are you feeling a little pucker in your seat goons? If so, that's your *** working as intended.

From what I've seen of them off and on over the years, I don't think the leadership will change the goons as a whole. Every MMO I've seen them in, they act the same. Different leaders, same MO. They will go on without the mitanni if something were to happen to him. I mean, it is probably a given that the most that will happen is that he won't be on the CSM. They wouldn't ban his accounts. Who knows, maybe his wife will give him enough bullshit that he quits on his own and turns over the ownership of the goons to someone else who will just do the same thing.

I don't see the goons being hurt at all, or this creating some mass exodus from the game.

I can see this happening. She really wants him to stop playing this game.


Imagine the humiliation she must be going through right now being labeled as the wife of a cyber bully. Straight
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4042 - 2012-03-28 20:57:02 UTC
The Wis wrote:
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Jeez ain't you guys bored yet.

Tal




Wait you are asking people that have fun spinning ships in a station to watch to counter if they are board yet?
Hmmm..

There are quite a few people who would like to know what you believe should be done about The Mittani's behavior. Could you please provide your thoughts on this matter?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4043 - 2012-03-28 20:57:32 UTC
Talon SilverHawk wrote:


Eve pilots aren't here to ruin the game, they just want to ruin Goons game Big smile


Tal


Hides


Epic!!

Don't ban me, bro!
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4044 - 2012-03-28 20:58:19 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Alexander Taos wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
*kicks back and waits for the CSM decision*

Are you feeling a little pucker in your seat goons? If so, that's your *** working as intended.

From what I've seen of them off and on over the years, I don't think the leadership will change the goons as a whole. Every MMO I've seen them in, they act the same. Different leaders, same MO. They will go on without the mitanni if something were to happen to him. I mean, it is probably a given that the most that will happen is that he won't be on the CSM. They wouldn't ban his accounts. Who knows, maybe his wife will give him enough bullshit that he quits on his own and turns over the ownership of the goons to someone else who will just do the same thing.

I don't see the goons being hurt at all, or this creating some mass exodus from the game.

I can see this happening. She really wants him to stop playing this game.


Imagine the humiliation she must be going through right now being labeled as the wife of a cyber bully. Straight

I imagine this is why she said she was glad she had kept her last name when she married Alex.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Lt Pizi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4045 - 2012-03-28 20:58:48 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Lt Pizi wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Lt Pizi wrote:
Derrick Munroe wrote:
I too get internet-offended over a drunken joke. Jesus, the political-correctness level in this thread is soul-crushing.

HTFU -- CCP


according to Alex (the RL guy) it wasnt a joke and hes fully aware that he has done something horrible

get your facts first before posting ...


Erm, the "something horrible" he apologizes for was mocking the miner at a live event and giving out his character name. He never claimed to have serious intent behind it.

He at no point said that it wasn't a joke or anything other than mocking.

But yes, he freely admitted that his mockery at the event was past the line.


his words not mine ...
This has been hanging over my head since Thursday when I stumbled away from the Alliance Panel with a vague sense that I had done something horrible


Yes, and read further where he explains what he did wrong that went over the line.

Care to quote the part that states he did anything other than mock Wis and give out his characters name. He acknowledges that this mockery at a live event was waaay over the line.

Thats it. There was no "according to Alex (the RL guy) it wasnt a joke" involved, you simply made that part up.


so you trying to tell me that it was a joke by alex from his point of view ?
i dont get the argument

Goon Tears are best tears, because they're 25% alcohol by volume!
Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#4046 - 2012-03-28 20:59:28 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
Sasha Azala wrote:
You can ask him what he wants but the answer wont make any difference it's CCP that has to sort out this mess.

To a point. I said earlier I believe this issue is between CCP, the Mittani and The Wis. The Mittani is a ****, no arguments there. His Goon pets without any behavioural inhibitions are doing a fantastic impersonation of showing us how little humanity they have. I don't think the Mittani will command the same respect as he had before, but that is a personal opinion.

The Wis has conflicting stories, accept an apology and massive ISK donation and still seems put out. It's hard to understand what is going on in his head, hard to understand why. And not really my place or anyone else's place to try and use him as a sockpuppet against the Mittani.

But, if he spoke out and told CCP and the Mittani what he wants - maybe that will help with a resolution. For example, he might say he does not want the Mittani to resign and that he accepts the apology. He might say he wants a Fanfest style broadcast apology. He might want a new character with the same skillpoints and stuff to escape all this attention.

And what he wants out of it should be the end of it.

/troll mode off
Exactly. Who the hell do people think they are, trying to dictate how CCP solves a dispute between two players? TheWis and Mittens are the only ones who have any right to be posting in this thread, everyone elses opinion doesnt mean ****.
/troll mode back on
Lenrir Andven
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4047 - 2012-03-28 21:00:01 UTC
Welp, I think we can lay this to rest now. Come CSM7 he admits he won't accept the chairmanship when offered.

Now everyone chill out and drink a beer.
Alexander Taos
Falco Industries
#4048 - 2012-03-28 21:00:23 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Alexander Taos wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
*kicks back and waits for the CSM decision*

Are you feeling a little pucker in your seat goons? If so, that's your *** working as intended.

From what I've seen of them off and on over the years, I don't think the leadership will change the goons as a whole. Every MMO I've seen them in, they act the same. Different leaders, same MO. They will go on without the mitanni if something were to happen to him. I mean, it is probably a given that the most that will happen is that he won't be on the CSM. They wouldn't ban his accounts. Who knows, maybe his wife will give him enough bullshit that he quits on his own and turns over the ownership of the goons to someone else who will just do the same thing.

I don't see the goons being hurt at all, or this creating some mass exodus from the game.

I can see this happening. She really wants him to stop playing this game.


Imagine the humiliation she must be going through right now being labeled as the wife of a cyber bully. Straight

More like. My husband plays video games, and roleplays, and instead I wish he'd buy me a dog.
Arrs Grazznic
Poena Executive Solutions
#4049 - 2012-03-28 21:00:24 UTC
Lt Pizi wrote:
Sunviking wrote:
With any luck this saga will be over by the weekend.


i hope so

I doubt it!
Twulf
Thunder Clap Industry
#4050 - 2012-03-28 21:00:32 UTC
Blatant Forum Alt wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:

Thank you for having the courage to enter the shark pool known as The Mittani's apology. It is very enlightening to hear your thoughts on the matter as his goon minions have been spinning the truth in here so fast they should all be falling over dizzy. Your points are 100% valid about this not being an in-game issue.

If you live in the US, I suggest you contact an attorney and ask him about the possibility of a lawsuit for "intentional infliction of emotional distress." Courts have ruled that the offense must rise to the level that the average person upon hearing of it would exclaim "outrageous!" I believe urging people on a live broadcast to make someone kill themselves because that person had voiced suicidal thoughts rises to that level of outrageousness. As punitive damages can be collected in this type of case, you may be looking at a substantially valuable claim. Just food for thought.

Wow, quoting American law on an internet forum. You must be an expert barrister then, right? Please, tell us more about your long and successful career in criminal law.


Please show me where it says that you have to be a lawyer or practice criminal law to understand and know the laws of the country you live in?

Please show me where it says that you have to be a lawyer or practice criminal law to suggest someone seek a lawyer and see if they might have a case?

You sir are an idiot. Please learn to use common sense and logic before you post, I know this will be hard for people like you as you have no idea what logic or common sense are and clearly have no idea how to use them.
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#4051 - 2012-03-28 21:00:35 UTC
Derrick Munroe wrote:

This is more of your double-standard ~internet lawyering~ that got old 50 pages ago.


*sighs*

As I said previously, I believe he has a decent case for "intentional infliction of emotional distress." Do try to keep up.

As for cyber-bullying, I would give that less chance for a successful suit just because of how new that theory is. However, it is trending pretty dramatically at the moment, and I believe this has enough of a tangible connection to the internet to push it that direction if done properly.

But that's not what the replier was getting at. He was implying that somehow because the internet was involved, there's no cause of action in the US. Or at least that's what I got from the whiney little scream about "America isn't the internets!&!@&!" Of course it's not.

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Welsige
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4052 - 2012-03-28 21:01:44 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
Alexander Taos wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
*kicks back and waits for the CSM decision*

Are you feeling a little pucker in your seat goons? If so, that's your *** working as intended.

From what I've seen of them off and on over the years, I don't think the leadership will change the goons as a whole. Every MMO I've seen them in, they act the same. Different leaders, same MO. They will go on without the mitanni if something were to happen to him. I mean, it is probably a given that the most that will happen is that he won't be on the CSM. They wouldn't ban his accounts. Who knows, maybe his wife will give him enough bullshit that he quits on his own and turns over the ownership of the goons to someone else who will just do the same thing.

I don't see the goons being hurt at all, or this creating some mass exodus from the game.


I agree, the goons will go on, but they won't be happy if he's removed from the CSM. Unhappy goons best goons.



Hum like the CSM is anything more than 2 free tickets to iceland. They have no power, and theres allways a next year.

[b]~ 10.058 ~

Free The Mittani[/b]
GatoOFruits
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4053 - 2012-03-28 21:01:48 UTC

Who gives a **** about the CSM anyway?
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#4054 - 2012-03-28 21:01:52 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Alexander Taos wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
*kicks back and waits for the CSM decision*

Are you feeling a little pucker in your seat goons? If so, that's your *** working as intended.

From what I've seen of them off and on over the years, I don't think the leadership will change the goons as a whole. Every MMO I've seen them in, they act the same. Different leaders, same MO. They will go on without the mitanni if something were to happen to him. I mean, it is probably a given that the most that will happen is that he won't be on the CSM. They wouldn't ban his accounts. Who knows, maybe his wife will give him enough bullshit that he quits on his own and turns over the ownership of the goons to someone else who will just do the same thing.

I don't see the goons being hurt at all, or this creating some mass exodus from the game.

I can see this happening. She really wants him to stop playing this game.


Imagine the humiliation she must be going through right now being labeled as the wife of a cyber bully. Straight


I'm pretty sure she's used to dealing with him being accused of far worse than that. Smile

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4055 - 2012-03-28 21:02:07 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
Derrick Munroe wrote:

This is more of your double-standard ~internet lawyering~ that got old 50 pages ago.


*sighs*

As I said previously, I believe he has a decent case for "intentional infliction of emotional distress." Do try to keep up.

As for cyber-bullying, I would give that less chance for a successful suit just because of how new that theory is. However, it is trending pretty dramatically at the moment, and I believe this has enough of a tangible connection to the internet to push it that direction if done properly.

But that's not what the replier was getting at. He was implying that somehow because the internet was involved, there's no cause of action in the US. Or at least that's what I got from the whiney little scream about "America isn't the internets!&!@&!" Of course it's not.


i should seek punitive damages from you because of the emotional damage from reading your bad posts

brb calling my lawyer, leonard j. crabs

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4056 - 2012-03-28 21:02:46 UTC
Apparently Alex is mocking the whole situation on goon jabber ping or something earlier. Anyone have the details?
Ice Fist
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#4057 - 2012-03-28 21:03:31 UTC
Looks like Mittens is stepping down as CSM chair, but remaining on the CSM.

So, unless CCP forcibly removes him, looks like you guys are stuck with Mittens on the CSM.

To Darius III, since you lost your own prediction, what do I get???
Oreb Wing
Last Rites.
#4058 - 2012-03-28 21:03:32 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:

"Just landed. Step one, apologize profusely. Step two, resign. Step three, send all my isk to the victim. Entirely my fault and unacceptable."

Let us know when two and three are done.



This is the problem with the world today. When her most capable and influential men cover their face with shame, and are crippled by guilt, leaving behind the most incompetent of men that have no scruples to find fault, nor desire to improve. As for everyone who exploited this, you should be ashamed. You might not agree, but I would never kick a man when he's down.

Get up Mittani.
Voull
Visional
#4059 - 2012-03-28 21:04:07 UTC
Sir Marksalot wrote:

are you a conservative republican afraid of mexicans and muslims, or are you just a sufferer of aspergers syndrome


~u mad bro?~
Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#4060 - 2012-03-28 21:04:40 UTC
Twulf wrote:
Blatant Forum Alt wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:

Thank you for having the courage to enter the shark pool known as The Mittani's apology. It is very enlightening to hear your thoughts on the matter as his goon minions have been spinning the truth in here so fast they should all be falling over dizzy. Your points are 100% valid about this not being an in-game issue.

If you live in the US, I suggest you contact an attorney and ask him about the possibility of a lawsuit for "intentional infliction of emotional distress." Courts have ruled that the offense must rise to the level that the average person upon hearing of it would exclaim "outrageous!" I believe urging people on a live broadcast to make someone kill themselves because that person had voiced suicidal thoughts rises to that level of outrageousness. As punitive damages can be collected in this type of case, you may be looking at a substantially valuable claim. Just food for thought.

Wow, quoting American law on an internet forum. You must be an expert barrister then, right? Please, tell us more about your long and successful career in criminal law.


Please show me where it says that you have to be a lawyer or practice criminal law to understand and know the laws of the country you live in?

Please show me where it says that you have to be a lawyer or practice criminal law to suggest someone seek a lawyer and see if they might have a case?

You sir are an idiot. Please learn to use common sense and logic before you post, I know this will be hard for people like you as you have no idea what logic or common sense are and clearly have no idea how to use them.

Yay, I love direct insults. Direct insults are only used when someone does not have a logical answer to give, so retaliates with feeble insults.

My post was sarcastically criticising the way many people pretend to have extensive knowledge of their country's laws, when really all they have done is looked up 'cyber bullying laws' on wikipedia.