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Lvl2 Blockade webifier vs Thrasher
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Rezig Huruta
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-03-28 18:19:29 UTC
Ok, so, I took a L2 mission - probably too soon. However, I'd like some advice on dealing with an accursed webifier tower that has significant range (L2 blockade mission).

How do I deal with the tower? Putting a microwarp doesn't seem to help much as I still get overwhelmed. I have (unfortunately) only T1 fittings - if the solution is T2 to help tank or something, I'm open to suggestions.
Zircon Dasher
#2 - 2012-03-28 18:23:51 UTC
I seem to recall BM'ing the tower and warping to the BM at my desired range. Its been a loooong time since I have done a mission, much less an L2, though so not sure this still works.

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Rezig Huruta
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-03-28 18:30:42 UTC
Thanks. I thought about warping to 0, but bookmarking and taking out the tower didn't come to mind. Hopefully that'll work. Then, I can design a fit to take the tower down ASAP, warp out, and come back with a tankier fit.

Seems a good plan!
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#4 - 2012-03-28 20:41:43 UTC
Webbing towers are a case of ~awesome~ CCP iterative development. Before 2009, webs used to slow down ships by 90% instead of the current 50-60%, but ships also moved much faster back then. Now our ships are slower but still affected by 90% webs.

Try the warping trick above, and if it doesn't work (if the mission is in deadspace), then you'll just have to ship up to a bigger ship that can take the tower out from range.

Have fun!

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Rezig Huruta
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-03-28 22:33:53 UTC
Yeah, that's what I'll try to do.

On a related note, is there a way that players can mutually group up for a specific mission? I suppose the danger there lies if one player decides to let the other die miserably. lol.

Anyway, if two players have the same mission, can they join forces?
Saul Shardani
People of the Saiya
Silent Company
#6 - 2012-03-28 23:06:17 UTC
Don't take my word on it, because I'm not 100% sure, but if 2 players have the same mission, all you have to do is form a fleet with them and complete the mission cooperatively and both should get mission completes.
Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#7 - 2012-03-28 23:40:10 UTC
Try using arties and long range ammo to snipe it before you get too overwhelmed by the NPCs.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-03-29 01:06:52 UTC
Saul Shardani wrote:
Don't take my word on it, because I'm not 100% sure, but if 2 players have the same mission, all you have to do is form a fleet with them and complete the mission cooperatively and both should get mission completes.

Try Damsel in Distress then. You have to turn in one damsel that you rescued. If there are two of you, how many damsels will you get in the can once you destroy pleasure garden structure?

Same for Worlds Collide...

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Beltze Sorgin
BSSLD Explorations
#9 - 2012-03-29 11:05:38 UTC
I've done this mish loads of times & drones are your friends. Let 'em loose on that tower & it doesn't last long Smile
I Accidentally YourShip
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-03-29 11:15:06 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
Saul Shardani wrote:
Don't take my word on it, because I'm not 100% sure, but if 2 players have the same mission, all you have to do is form a fleet with them and complete the mission cooperatively and both should get mission completes.

Try Damsel in Distress then. You have to turn in one damsel that you rescued. If there are two of you, how many damsels will you get in the can once you destroy pleasure garden structure?

Same for Worlds Collide...



It's not like WoW, you don't "share" the mission. One player has the mission, and other players are free to assist them. When they turn it in they have the option of splitting the rewards with their fleet, they can choose not to as well. If you BOTH get the same mission, you need to do both deadspace pockets.
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-03-29 15:17:28 UTC
I Accidentally YourShip wrote:
Caleidascope wrote:
Saul Shardani wrote:
Don't take my word on it, because I'm not 100% sure, but if 2 players have the same mission, all you have to do is form a fleet with them and complete the mission cooperatively and both should get mission completes.

Try Damsel in Distress then. You have to turn in one damsel that you rescued. If there are two of you, how many damsels will you get in the can once you destroy pleasure garden structure?

Same for Worlds Collide...



It's not like WoW, you don't "share" the mission. One player has the mission, and other players are free to assist them. When they turn it in they have the option of splitting the rewards with their fleet, they can choose not to as well. If you BOTH get the same mission, you need to do both deadspace pockets.

This

To the OP, train for a cruiser. Ask a friend/corpmate to join fleet or one of the earlier supposed things you can try.
Kira Deschain
Arcane Odyssey
Electus Matari
#12 - 2012-03-30 19:59:57 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
Try using arties and long range ammo to snipe it before you get too overwhelmed by the NPCs.



Agree with Dato, fit some small artillery and pop the tower from range. In fact, I only fit artillery on my Thrasher given the bonuses.
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-03-30 20:45:02 UTC
don't warp to 0 as the tower is not right next to the warp in spot. Try warping in at 20

If that doesn't work, you can warp at 100, then turn around and flee but you draw all the ships with you. Let them chase you for a while then warp out and come right back. Now with all the ships 80K away from you, you have time to slow boat to the tower and kill it. This takes forever though.

that web tower is pain the ass I agree
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-03-30 20:48:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Caleidascope
I Accidentally YourShip wrote:
Caleidascope wrote:
Saul Shardani wrote:
Don't take my word on it, because I'm not 100% sure, but if 2 players have the same mission, all you have to do is form a fleet with them and complete the mission cooperatively and both should get mission completes.

Try Damsel in Distress then. You have to turn in one damsel that you rescued. If there are two of you, how many damsels will you get in the can once you destroy pleasure garden structure?

Same for Worlds Collide...



It's not like WoW, you don't "share" the mission. One player has the mission, and other players are free to assist them. When they turn it in they have the option of splitting the rewards with their fleet, they can choose not to as well. If you BOTH get the same mission, you need to do both deadspace pockets.

Tell it to Saul, he is the one who does not know that when two chars have same mission, both missions have to be done.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Rezig Huruta
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-03-30 20:51:58 UTC
Thanks for the extra info! :D

Yeah, I'll try the warp far away, pull the baddies, warp out, warp in at 20 and then blastify the tower. I'll factor in doing it twice if I group up with another player that has it as well.

I'll try an arty destroyer to take out the tower after drawing them away for a bit. Thanks again all!
Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
#16 - 2012-03-31 12:15:29 UTC
Rezig Huruta wrote:
Yeah, that's what I'll try to do.

On a related note, is there a way that players can mutually group up for a specific mission? I suppose the danger there lies if one player decides to let the other die miserably. lol.

Anyway, if two players have the same mission, can they join forces?


Two players never have to same mission. But they can join forces regardless. Just help someone with his mission and next you do your mission. It is more effective for missions until you hit the point when you can do L4s solo.

Furthermore, when in fleet you can share the rewards when completing a mission with your fleet, this includes: Standing, ISK, and LP. So again, there is no need to have the same mission.

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