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Voull
Visional
#3941 - 2012-03-28 20:22:49 UTC
Blatant Forum Alt wrote:
Voull wrote:
Andski wrote:
PsychoBitch wrote:
CCP should have him unceremoniously removed immediately, and banned.


yeah let's **** off thousands of bored jerks whose subs won't lapse for months

let's just see how unplayable the game becomes


Good riddance, go back to the hole you crawled out from (and paid $10 for)

Please, tell us more about how important you are to the world of Eve.


Who cares?
Citamarret
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3942 - 2012-03-28 20:23:04 UTC
why is this thread still going
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#3943 - 2012-03-28 20:23:22 UTC
Blatant Forum Alt wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:

Thank you for having the courage to enter the shark pool known as The Mittani's apology. It is very enlightening to hear your thoughts on the matter as his goon minions have been spinning the truth in here so fast they should all be falling over dizzy. Your points are 100% valid about this not being an in-game issue.

If you live in the US, I suggest you contact an attorney and ask him about the possibility of a lawsuit for "intentional infliction of emotional distress." Courts have ruled that the offense must rise to the level that the average person upon hearing of it would exclaim "outrageous!" I believe urging people on a live broadcast to make someone kill themselves because that person had voiced suicidal thoughts rises to that level of outrageousness. As punitive damages can be collected in this type of case, you may be looking at a substantially valuable claim. Just food for thought.

Wow, quoting American law on an internet forum. You must be an expert barrister then, right? Please, tell us more about your long and successful career in criminal law.


Someone has to have a successful career in criminal law to advise someone to see an attorney on a civil matter? What interesting ideas you have.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#3944 - 2012-03-28 20:23:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Jessie-A Tassik
Alexandra Alt wrote:
Andski wrote:
PsychoBitch wrote:
CCP should have him unceremoniously removed immediately, and banned.


yeah let's **** off thousands of bored jerks whose subs won't lapse for months

let's just see how unplayable the game becomes


Because of comments like this, I'd love to see CCP call your bluff, and start the ban wave on your drones until the ones not banned grow a brain.


A more valid question would be if, would banning every single Goon cause the subscription base to grow?
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3945 - 2012-03-28 20:24:09 UTC
Sir Marksalot wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
It's occured to me that if The Mittani were truly sorry he'd have asked his swarm of Goons to be a little bit less agressive in this thread.

fofofo



And here in is the proof the the ultimate danger of what he did. Look at the mentality of the goons in these threads.

They would have followed through with what the mittani said in a heartbeat if not for the backlash that came out about it.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3946 - 2012-03-28 20:24:13 UTC
recurrsion wrote:
Andski wrote:
Hey if you're going to call me a GOON DRONE LOL you should probably post with your main because otherwise I'll just assume that you're a mindless drone scratching at a veldspar asteroid somewhere


There really isnt any point of a "main" cause anyone can just sell it and get a new one. So why bother posting with a "main". Your comments though main or not doesnt make you any less of a drone.

then why arent you posting on it
Dusenman
Sensible People
Sigma Grindset
#3947 - 2012-03-28 20:24:25 UTC
Citamarret wrote:
why is this thread still going


Forum Warriors!

GM Homonoia: In other words; feel free to use the tactic, but don't be an utter and total ***.

CCP Tallest_: _And by "we have made it so", I mean Punkturis has made it so.
Alexandra Alt
Doomheim
#3948 - 2012-03-28 20:24:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexandra Alt
Andski wrote:
Alexandra Alt wrote:
Andski wrote:
PsychoBitch wrote:
CCP should have him unceremoniously removed immediately, and banned.


yeah let's **** off thousands of bored jerks whose subs won't lapse for months

let's just see how unplayable the game becomes


Because of comments like this, I'd love to see CCP call your bluff, and start the ban wave on your drones until the ones not banned grow a brain.


Too bad griefing the hell out of highsec isn't bannable

lol


Oh you think griefing high sec is making the game unplayable ?! LoL I rest my case.
Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#3949 - 2012-03-28 20:24:36 UTC
Alexander Taos wrote:
Perhaps the decision has been made:

http://twitter.com/#!/Darius_III_

Quote:


Steve Hamer ‏ @Hamerhead
Hey #csm7 can we expect some news about you-know-what before the weekend? #tweetfleet #eveonline


Darius III ‏ @Darius_III_
@Hamerhead Very soon. Be prepared for good news #tweetfleet #csm7



Also:

Quote:

Darius III ‏ @Darius_III_
I have further things to discuss with my fellow CSM and soon Ex-CSM members. I will update you later. #tweetfleet #CSM7



and props for attacking alcoholics.

Quote:

Darius III ‏ @Darius_III_
For a better #CSM7 without the influence of sociopathic alcoholics! #tweetfleet

Your first mistake was presuming Darius is a trustworthy source of information.

... actually your first mistake was listening to Darius at all.
Prince Kobol
#3950 - 2012-03-28 20:24:43 UTC
Blatant Forum Alt wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
NamingViolation wrote:


The ultimate fact that happened was that Mittani actively encouraged the audience and viewers to put presure on a named player with the intent to make this player kill himself. Now thats the ultimate fact - deal with it... cause sure as f CCP will (be forced too)


You missed out the part that it was a joke and not to be taken seriously at all.


Its about perception.

You think it was a Joke, hence funny.

Just because you think it was funny doesn't mean other people will think its funny.

Now okay, before you argue does that mean you can't go around making jokes for fear of offending anybody, no it doesn't, not at all.

However there are some subject matters which, when address thousands of players at a official CCP Event and you are the Player Elected Chairman, you do not joke about.

I would say one of those is assisting somebody to commit suicide, especially when you take into account the current publicity in the media world wide about Cyber Bullying and how Computers Games are making kids kill people etc etc.



Okay, so you are admitting that this is all about perception. In that case, please stop demanding that everyone adheres to your personal perception of what went on, and instead wait for those whose perception actually matters - namely, CCP - to come out and make a decision.


Of course its about perception, its about public opinion, its about the majority.

If it was just a bunch of people on a forum then as far as CCP is concerned it is of no importance, they have proved this in the past.

However its is now external to Eve. It is internet sites that CCP heavily rely on for advertising and for getting new people into the game.

Its those internet sites that CCP care about, their perception of what happen and it ain't good. Also if you read the comments on many of those sites it looks even worse.
low26
Phantom Space
Space Madness.
#3951 - 2012-03-28 20:24:57 UTC
Andski wrote:
PsychoBitch wrote:
CCP should have him unceremoniously removed immediately, and banned.


yeah let's **** off thousands of bored jerks whose subs won't lapse for months

let's just see how unplayable the game becomes



Lol come at me bro! So it will be like last night in VFK when 200 of you hid from like 60? Goons never fight unless its like 4 to 1 odds in their favor Big smile

Mittens is done for ~deal with it~
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#3952 - 2012-03-28 20:25:09 UTC
Blatant Forum Alt wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
It's occured to me that if The Mittani were truly sorry he'd have asked his swarm of Goons to be a little bit less agressive in this thread.

That would require mittens to actually control the goons...

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Voull
Visional
#3953 - 2012-03-28 20:25:14 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Alexandra Alt wrote:
Andski wrote:
PsychoBitch wrote:
CCP should have him unceremoniously removed immediately, and banned.


yeah let's **** off thousands of bored jerks whose subs won't lapse for months

let's just see how unplayable the game becomes


Because of comments like this, I'd love to see CCP call your bluff, and start the ban wave on your drones until the ones not banned grow a brain.


A more valid question would be if, would banning every single Goon cause the subscription base to grow?


Are goons threatening to leave now because their dear leader is going to resign?

LOL
Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#3954 - 2012-03-28 20:25:21 UTC
The Mittani is real. The WiS is real. Hilmar's beard is terrifyingly real.

EVE IS REAL.

Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.
Ice Fist
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#3955 - 2012-03-28 20:25:24 UTC
Amity Lane wrote:
Kallynda Nai wrote:
Amity Lane wrote:
Ice Fist wrote:
The Wis wrote:
OK.. I really do not know what to say. I am at a loss for words with all that is going on.

I guess I should say that this is not about someone alt in eve.
This is not about someone losing isks they worked for.
This is not about someone losing a machanaw in the game.
This is not something I started. I was really shocked to see the video monday night when I finaly had time.

This is all really about a person that is over joyed in making some one hurt as much as they can in real life not in game.
Going by his power point I have to say he thought about it long before getting drunk.
If thowing my name out there was something he planed to do or not that I can not say, and we will never know for sure.
But when reflect the way he talked about my mail. I am sure that was an option he was holding on to and tossing up becouse he was really enjoying tomenting someone.

I am sorry this is not the alt in the game that is talk but the person playing the alt.

There are allot of people out there that have real life problems, but they are warned when they join Eve. Whats said and done in the game doesn't bother me, its all part of Eve.

To me this **** got real and hurt full when I watched a video where a complete stranger urged other complete strangers to try make me kill myself.



The Wis


I feel for you Wis, I really do. You were the brunt of a drunken joke. The Mittani both apologized in this thread, and sent you a large sum of isk by way of apology and to compensate you many times over for what you lost.

However, this post is late. In fact, in a controversy like this, where every single Anti-Mittani, Anti-Goon sicophant has come running to join the fray, demanding blood, this post is too late. This story broke 3 days ago. You were made aware of it 2 days ago (at the very least). Several people have asked for your opinion in in-game conversations, and these are posted here in this thread. Previously, you seemed pretty non-chalant. Of course, not at all happy that you were used as a joke, but certainly not looking for blood and certainly not hopping on the mock outrage bandwagon. So consider me a skeptic. Just as many people here are skeptics of The Mittani's apology, I am skeptic that this is genuine outrage.

So what was the promised price? Yeah, I said it. In a politically charged atmosphere where every eve politician and goon hater stands to gain something from The Mittani's downfall, it is not at all far fetched to believe that you were well-compensated for this post. I can't prove it, but the delay between this charade becoming viral and you coming here to give your fake outraged opinion, lends plenty of credibility to the notion that this post came with a price tag. Hell, it'd be a bargain for some of the people here screaming with mock anger to give you double what the Mittani gave you just for a simple post on how 'hurtful' this was.

You should also consider that people like Jade Constantine, sitting there on their high horse acting like you're their long-lost space brother, really don't care at all about you. In fact, regardless of what they say, the vast majority of the phony Mittani haters here don't have the slightest bit of compassion for you or what happened to you. They just stand to gain from the consequences.

So congrats, you have become a means to an end, and you've played your part brilliantly.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Care to provide some?


Bolded the relevant part for you.

So the damning evidence of The Wis's statement being bought by someone with an agenda is time?

You also make the claim that his statement is "fake" while providing no evidence that it is false in any way.

I'm sorry, but that's not how logical argument and skepticism work. Claims are evaluated on verifiability and/or falsifiability, and you've provided nothing but baseless conjecture.




Of course I have nothing but conjecture. I even said that in my post. And yes, time and the sheer number of people with deep pockets that have probably been begging him to come on here and make an 'outrage' post. Hahaha, I mean seriously, earlier in this thread alot of people were scoffing at 10 billion isk saying things like "lol that isn't even a lot of isk." By that logic, it would be very cheap to give him another 20 billion and buy a post.

I also don't believe it's fake, just not genuine. As in, his outrage is not genuine. Just like people don't believe the apology is genuine, I don't believe this is genuine.

But hey, to get me to shutup, all you need to do is get the Wiz to post API-verified wallet information. That way, if Darius III (already hard at work making the CSM's NDA agreements look stupid by chatting about CSM conversations with his friends and then tweeting about it) had given him 20 billion to come and make a post we can all know about it.
Nylith Empyreal
Sutar Rein
#3956 - 2012-03-28 20:25:26 UTC
Andski wrote:
Alexandra Alt wrote:
Andski wrote:
PsychoBitch wrote:
CCP should have him unceremoniously removed immediately, and banned.


yeah let's **** off thousands of bored jerks whose subs won't lapse for months

let's just see how unplayable the game becomes


Because of comments like this, I'd love to see CCP call your bluff, and start the ban wave on your drones until the ones not banned grow a brain.


Too bad griefing the hell out of highsec isn't bannable

lol


Do it enough and they might make it completely safe when the opposing subs start to drop and you have made your own world barren by the plague you brought upon them. Then in your lonely world you've finally 'won' eve, congratulations.

Who's the more foolish the fool or the fool who replies to him?
Townsend Harris
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3957 - 2012-03-28 20:26:03 UTC
Voull wrote:
Ah, goons always crawl back to their defense of "u mad bro" when they know they are wrong

U mad bro?
Alexandra Alt
Doomheim
#3958 - 2012-03-28 20:26:05 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Alexandra Alt wrote:
Andski wrote:
PsychoBitch wrote:
CCP should have him unceremoniously removed immediately, and banned.


yeah let's **** off thousands of bored jerks whose subs won't lapse for months

let's just see how unplayable the game becomes


Because of comments like this, I'd love to see CCP call your bluff, and start the ban wave on your drones until the ones not banned grow a brain.


A more valid question would be if, would banning every single Goon cause the subscription base to grow?


No idea, but I can tell you what would grow, the average IQ level of the player base!
Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#3959 - 2012-03-28 20:26:33 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Sir Marksalot wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
It's occured to me that if The Mittani were truly sorry he'd have asked his swarm of Goons to be a little bit less agressive in this thread.

fofofo



And here in is the proof the the ultimate danger of what he did. Look at the mentality of the goons in these threads.

They would have followed through with what the mittani said in a heartbeat if not for the backlash that came out about it.

If mittens had never been born the goons would be exactly the same as they are now. Goon culture originated outside the game, and is far more widespread than just Eve. Not to mention mittens' short career compared to the lifespan of goon culture...
Drone 16
Holy Horde
#3960 - 2012-03-28 20:26:53 UTC
Ice Fist wrote:
The Wis wrote:
OK.. I really do not know what to say. I am at a loss for words with all that is going on.

I guess I should say that this is not about someone alt in eve.
This is not about someone losing isks they worked for.
This is not about someone losing a machanaw in the game.
This is not something I started. I was really shocked to see the video monday night when I finaly had time.

This is all really about a person that is over joyed in making some one hurt as much as they can in real life not in game.
Going by his power point I have to say he thought about it long before getting drunk.
If thowing my name out there was something he planed to do or not that I can not say, and we will never know for sure.
But when reflect the way he talked about my mail. I am sure that was an option he was holding on to and tossing up becouse he was really enjoying tomenting someone.

I am sorry this is not the alt in the game that is talk but the person playing the alt.

There are allot of people out there that have real life problems, but they are warned when they join Eve. Whats said and done in the game doesn't bother me, its all part of Eve.

To me this **** got real and hurt full when I watched a video where a complete stranger urged other complete strangers to try make me kill myself.



The Wis


I feel for you Wis, I really do. You were the brunt of a drunken joke. The Mittani both apologized in this thread, and sent you a large sum of isk by way of apology and to compensate you many times over for what you lost.

However, this post is late. In fact, in a controversy like this, where every single Anti-Mittani, Anti-Goon sicophant has come running to join the fray, demanding blood, this post is too late. This story broke 3 days ago. You were made aware of it 2 days ago (at the very least). Several people have asked for your opinion in in-game conversations, and these are posted here in this thread. Previously, you seemed pretty non-chalant. Of course, not at all happy that you were used as a joke, but certainly not looking for blood and certainly not hopping on the mock outrage bandwagon. So consider me a skeptic. Just as many people here are skeptics of The Mittani's apology, I am skeptic that this is genuine outrage.

So what was the promised price? Yeah, I said it. In a politically charged atmosphere where every eve politician and goon hater stands to gain something from The Mittani's downfall, it is not at all far fetched to believe that you were well-compensated for this post. I can't prove it, but the delay between this charade becoming viral and you coming here to give your fake outraged opinion, lends plenty of credibility to the notion that this post came with a price tag. Hell, it'd be a bargain for some of the people here screaming with mock anger to give you double what the Mittani gave you just for a simple post on how 'hurtful' this was.

You should also consider that people like Jade Constantine, sitting there on their high horse acting like you're their long-lost space brother, really don't care at all about you. In fact, regardless of what they say, the vast majority of the phony Mittani haters here don't have the slightest bit of compassion for you or what happened to you. They just stand to gain from the consequences.

So congrats, you have become a means to an end, and you've played your part brilliantly.


LOL...so he was griefed in-game, made a fool of out of game and you want him to give your organization some sympathy?

You sound upset.

Are you not being treated fairly?

Are your feelings hurt?

My guess is that you will be on some alliance's slide for the most sad-sap pathetic post of the year...why don't you go lose some Mackinaws...it might make you feel better.

Isn't it funny how bullies cry the hardest when the tables are turned?


It puts the peanutbutter on itself or it leaves the bonus round... - E1's greatest Hits