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Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3901 - 2012-03-28 20:14:22 UTC
Voull wrote:
Ah, goons always crawl back to their defense of "u mad bro" when they know they are wrong

youre thinking of 4chan, hth
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3902 - 2012-03-28 20:15:09 UTC
Blatant Forum Alt wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
NamingViolation wrote:


The ultimate fact that happened was that Mittani actively encouraged the audience and viewers to put presure on a named player with the intent to make this player kill himself. Now thats the ultimate fact - deal with it... cause sure as f CCP will (be forced too)


You missed out the part that it was a joke and not to be taken seriously at all.


Its about perception.

You think it was a Joke, hence funny.

Just because you think it was funny doesn't mean other people will think its funny.

Now okay, before you argue does that mean you can't go around making jokes for fear of offending anybody, no it doesn't, not at all.

However there are some subject matters which, when address thousands of players at a official CCP Event and you are the Player Elected Chairman, you do not joke about.

I would say one of those is assisting somebody to commit suicide, especially when you take into account the current publicity in the media world wide about Cyber Bullying and how Computers Games are making kids kill people etc etc.





Okay, so you are admitting that this is all about perception. In that case, please stop demanding that everyone adheres to your personal perception of what went on, and instead wait for those whose perception actually matters - namely, CCP - to come out and make a decision.


Keep twisting keep spinning.


No one buys it at this point.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3903 - 2012-03-28 20:15:14 UTC
Lt Pizi wrote:
Kallynda Nai wrote:
Amity Lane wrote:
Ice Fist wrote:
The Wis wrote:
OK.. I really do not know what to say. I am at a loss for words with all that is going on.

I guess I should say that this is not about someone alt in eve.
This is not about someone losing isks they worked for.
This is not about someone losing a machanaw in the game.
This is not something I started. I was really shocked to see the video monday night when I finaly had time.

This is all really about a person that is over joyed in making some one hurt as much as they can in real life not in game.
Going by his power point I have to say he thought about it long before getting drunk.
If thowing my name out there was something he planed to do or not that I can not say, and we will never know for sure.
But when reflect the way he talked about my mail. I am sure that was an option he was holding on to and tossing up becouse he was really enjoying tomenting someone.

I am sorry this is not the alt in the game that is talk but the person playing the alt.

There are allot of people out there that have real life problems, but they are warned when they join Eve. Whats said and done in the game doesn't bother me, its all part of Eve.

To me this **** got real and hurt full when I watched a video where a complete stranger urged other complete strangers to try make me kill myself.



The Wis


I feel for you Wis, I really do. You were the brunt of a drunken joke. The Mittani both apologized in this thread, and sent you a large sum of isk by way of apology and to compensate you many times over for what you lost.

However, this post is late. In fact, in a controversy like this, where every single Anti-Mittani, Anti-Goon sicophant has come running to join the fray, demanding blood, this post is too late. This story broke 3 days ago. You were made aware of it 2 days ago (at the very least). Several people have asked for your opinion in in-game conversations, and these are posted here in this thread. Previously, you seemed pretty non-chalant. Of course, not at all happy that you were used as a joke, but certainly not looking for blood and certainly not hopping on the mock outrage bandwagon. So consider me a skeptic. Just as many people here are skeptics of The Mittani's apology, I am skeptic that this is genuine outrage.

So what was the promised price? Yeah, I said it. In a politically charged atmosphere where every eve politician and goon hater stands to gain something from The Mittani's downfall, it is not at all far fetched to believe that you were well-compensated for this post. I can't prove it, but the delay between this charade becoming viral and you coming here to give your fake outraged opinion, lends plenty of credibility to the notion that this post came with a price tag. Hell, it'd be a bargain for some of the people here screaming with mock anger to give you double what the Mittani gave you just for a simple post on how 'hurtful' this was.

You should also consider that people like Jade Constantine, sitting there on their high horse acting like you're their long-lost space brother, really don't care at all about you. In fact, regardless of what they say, the vast majority of the phony Mittani haters here don't have the slightest bit of compassion for you or what happened to you. They just stand to gain from the consequences.

So congrats, you have become a means to an end, and you've played your part brilliantly.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Care to provide some?


Bolded the relevant part for you.


then why post
slinging mud around gets you nowhere


i agree, lets close this stupid thread and ban the accounts of all posters within
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#3904 - 2012-03-28 20:15:14 UTC
Hench Tenet wrote:
This thread is entirely tl;dr, but has anyone pointed out that CCP put the guy's character name on the login screen? Now compare that to saying it at a rather low-key presentation (Which would have been much lower of a key if the morallords didn't rile up so much faux indignation over it)


You can think of nothing lower key than telling thousands of your thugs to grief someone?

That's funny, I can think of hundreds off the top of my head.

Shameless Goons continue shameless lies.
Amity Lane
Hek Mining Association
#3905 - 2012-03-28 20:15:29 UTC
Kallynda Nai wrote:
Amity Lane wrote:
Ice Fist wrote:
The Wis wrote:
OK.. I really do not know what to say. I am at a loss for words with all that is going on.

I guess I should say that this is not about someone alt in eve.
This is not about someone losing isks they worked for.
This is not about someone losing a machanaw in the game.
This is not something I started. I was really shocked to see the video monday night when I finaly had time.

This is all really about a person that is over joyed in making some one hurt as much as they can in real life not in game.
Going by his power point I have to say he thought about it long before getting drunk.
If thowing my name out there was something he planed to do or not that I can not say, and we will never know for sure.
But when reflect the way he talked about my mail. I am sure that was an option he was holding on to and tossing up becouse he was really enjoying tomenting someone.

I am sorry this is not the alt in the game that is talk but the person playing the alt.

There are allot of people out there that have real life problems, but they are warned when they join Eve. Whats said and done in the game doesn't bother me, its all part of Eve.

To me this **** got real and hurt full when I watched a video where a complete stranger urged other complete strangers to try make me kill myself.



The Wis


I feel for you Wis, I really do. You were the brunt of a drunken joke. The Mittani both apologized in this thread, and sent you a large sum of isk by way of apology and to compensate you many times over for what you lost.

However, this post is late. In fact, in a controversy like this, where every single Anti-Mittani, Anti-Goon sicophant has come running to join the fray, demanding blood, this post is too late. This story broke 3 days ago. You were made aware of it 2 days ago (at the very least). Several people have asked for your opinion in in-game conversations, and these are posted here in this thread. Previously, you seemed pretty non-chalant. Of course, not at all happy that you were used as a joke, but certainly not looking for blood and certainly not hopping on the mock outrage bandwagon. So consider me a skeptic. Just as many people here are skeptics of The Mittani's apology, I am skeptic that this is genuine outrage.

So what was the promised price? Yeah, I said it. In a politically charged atmosphere where every eve politician and goon hater stands to gain something from The Mittani's downfall, it is not at all far fetched to believe that you were well-compensated for this post. I can't prove it, but the delay between this charade becoming viral and you coming here to give your fake outraged opinion, lends plenty of credibility to the notion that this post came with a price tag. Hell, it'd be a bargain for some of the people here screaming with mock anger to give you double what the Mittani gave you just for a simple post on how 'hurtful' this was.

You should also consider that people like Jade Constantine, sitting there on their high horse acting like you're their long-lost space brother, really don't care at all about you. In fact, regardless of what they say, the vast majority of the phony Mittani haters here don't have the slightest bit of compassion for you or what happened to you. They just stand to gain from the consequences.

So congrats, you have become a means to an end, and you've played your part brilliantly.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Care to provide some?


Bolded the relevant part for you.

So the damning evidence of The Wis's statement being bought by someone with an agenda is time?

You also make the claim that his statement is "fake" while providing no evidence that it is false in any way.

I'm sorry, but that's not how logical argument and skepticism work. Claims are evaluated on verifiability and/or falsifiability, and you've provided nothing but baseless conjecture.
Kallynda Nai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3906 - 2012-03-28 20:15:43 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
If you live in the US, I suggest you contact an attorney and ask him about the possibility of a lawsuit for "intentional infliction of emotional distress." Courts have ruled that the offense must rise to the level that the average person upon hearing of it would exclaim "outrageous!" I believe urging people on a live broadcast to make someone kill themselves because that person had voiced suicidal thoughts rises to that level of outrageousness. As punitive damages can be collected in this type of case, you may be looking at a substantially valuable claim. Just food for thought.


And here we go.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3907 - 2012-03-28 20:16:08 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Kallynda Nai wrote:
Bolded the relevant part for you.

A minor correlation is not "plenty of credibility" for what you're accusing him of. But hey, you had the honesty of admitting you had no proof. I don't think more needs to be said.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
PsychoBitch
Playboy Enterprises
Dark Taboo
#3908 - 2012-03-28 20:16:19 UTC
CCP should have him unceremoniously removed immediately, and banned.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3909 - 2012-03-28 20:16:37 UTC
Amity Lane wrote:
So the damning evidence of The Wis's statement being bought by someone with an agenda is time?

You also make the claim that his statement is "fake" while providing no evidence that it is false in any way.

I'm sorry, but that's not how logical argument and skepticism work. Claims are evaluated on verifiability and/or falsifiability, and you've provided nothing but baseless conjecture.




welcome to the metagame

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#3910 - 2012-03-28 20:16:43 UTC
Quote:
i agree, lets close this stupid thread and ban the accounts of all posters within


Does that include Mittani?

If so, I for one will make the sacrifice!
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3911 - 2012-03-28 20:16:48 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Hench Tenet wrote:
This thread is entirely tl;dr, but has anyone pointed out that CCP put the guy's character name on the login screen? Now compare that to saying it at a rather low-key presentation (Which would have been much lower of a key if the morallords didn't rile up so much faux indignation over it)


You can think of nothing lower key than telling thousands of your thugs to grief someone?

That's funny, I can think of hundreds off the top of my head.

Shameless Goons continue shameless lies.



oh, neat, you're back


so whose alt are you?
Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#3912 - 2012-03-28 20:16:57 UTC
Kallynda Nai wrote:
Amity Lane wrote:
Ice Fist wrote:
The Wis wrote:
OK.. I really do not know what to say. I am at a loss for words with all that is going on.

I guess I should say that this is not about someone alt in eve.
This is not about someone losing isks they worked for.
This is not about someone losing a machanaw in the game.
This is not something I started. I was really shocked to see the video monday night when I finaly had time.

This is all really about a person that is over joyed in making some one hurt as much as they can in real life not in game.
Going by his power point I have to say he thought about it long before getting drunk.
If thowing my name out there was something he planed to do or not that I can not say, and we will never know for sure.
But when reflect the way he talked about my mail. I am sure that was an option he was holding on to and tossing up becouse he was really enjoying tomenting someone.

I am sorry this is not the alt in the game that is talk but the person playing the alt.

There are allot of people out there that have real life problems, but they are warned when they join Eve. Whats said and done in the game doesn't bother me, its all part of Eve.

To me this **** got real and hurt full when I watched a video where a complete stranger urged other complete strangers to try make me kill myself.



The Wis


I feel for you Wis, I really do. You were the brunt of a drunken joke. The Mittani both apologized in this thread, and sent you a large sum of isk by way of apology and to compensate you many times over for what you lost.

However, this post is late. In fact, in a controversy like this, where every single Anti-Mittani, Anti-Goon sicophant has come running to join the fray, demanding blood, this post is too late. This story broke 3 days ago. You were made aware of it 2 days ago (at the very least). Several people have asked for your opinion in in-game conversations, and these are posted here in this thread. Previously, you seemed pretty non-chalant. Of course, not at all happy that you were used as a joke, but certainly not looking for blood and certainly not hopping on the mock outrage bandwagon. So consider me a skeptic. Just as many people here are skeptics of The Mittani's apology, I am skeptic that this is genuine outrage.

So what was the promised price? Yeah, I said it. In a politically charged atmosphere where every eve politician and goon hater stands to gain something from The Mittani's downfall, it is not at all far fetched to believe that you were well-compensated for this post. I can't prove it, but the delay between this charade becoming viral and you coming here to give your fake outraged opinion, lends plenty of credibility to the notion that this post came with a price tag. Hell, it'd be a bargain for some of the people here screaming with mock anger to give you double what the Mittani gave you just for a simple post on how 'hurtful' this was.

You should also consider that people like Jade Constantine, sitting there on their high horse acting like you're their long-lost space brother, really don't care at all about you. In fact, regardless of what they say, the vast majority of the phony Mittani haters here don't have the slightest bit of compassion for you or what happened to you. They just stand to gain from the consequences.

So congrats, you have become a means to an end, and you've played your part brilliantly.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Care to provide some?


Bolded the relevant part for you.



That bolded part says nothing to me, so there was a delay that's not uncommon when someone feels vulnerable to harassment. Plus I don't think he'd seen the footage earlier on.

Are you saying he scammed The Mittani out of isk?
Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#3913 - 2012-03-28 20:17:00 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:

Thank you for having the courage to enter the shark pool known as The Mittani's apology. It is very enlightening to hear your thoughts on the matter as his goon minions have been spinning the truth in here so fast they should all be falling over dizzy. Your points are 100% valid about this not being an in-game issue.

If you live in the US, I suggest you contact an attorney and ask him about the possibility of a lawsuit for "intentional infliction of emotional distress." Courts have ruled that the offense must rise to the level that the average person upon hearing of it would exclaim "outrageous!" I believe urging people on a live broadcast to make someone kill themselves because that person had voiced suicidal thoughts rises to that level of outrageousness. As punitive damages can be collected in this type of case, you may be looking at a substantially valuable claim. Just food for thought.

Wow, quoting American law on an internet forum. You must be an expert barrister then, right? Please, tell us more about your long and successful career in criminal law.
Daviclond
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3914 - 2012-03-28 20:17:02 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Daviclond wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Daviclond wrote:
Giuliano Verti wrote:

Alexander, be coherent, be a man, keep you'r word and resign.


hahahaha


You laughing at the thought that the Mittani could ever be a man.. join the club Big smile


the atrocities of the EVE community against the english language in this thread have probably been my favourite bit


Indeed.

It's amazing how many people forget to capitalise proper nouns or begin sentences with capitals.


latin corp name/bio; lol
Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#3915 - 2012-03-28 20:17:03 UTC
Kallynda Nai wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
If you live in the US, I suggest you contact an attorney and ask him about the possibility of a lawsuit for "intentional infliction of emotional distress." Courts have ruled that the offense must rise to the level that the average person upon hearing of it would exclaim "outrageous!" I believe urging people on a live broadcast to make someone kill themselves because that person had voiced suicidal thoughts rises to that level of outrageousness. As punitive damages can be collected in this type of case, you may be looking at a substantially valuable claim. Just food for thought.


And here we go.


your still on this thread?

Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#3916 - 2012-03-28 20:17:10 UTC
@ The Wiz

Hey.

A little advice. Just don't post in this thread.

You are neither a moronic asshat, mentally deficient goon alt/pet or a forum warrior. These are the prerequisites for posting in a threadnought of such anger and bee fear. Simply relax, watch the drama and enjoy it. Attempting to explain yourself will only lead to misquotes and out of context attacks.

Good luck and consider what I have said.

Mr Epeen Cool
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3917 - 2012-03-28 20:17:39 UTC
PsychoBitch wrote:
CCP should have him unceremoniously removed immediately, and banned.


yeah let's **** off thousands of bored jerks whose subs won't lapse for months

let's just see how unplayable the game becomes

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#3918 - 2012-03-28 20:17:47 UTC
Sasha Azala wrote:
That bolded part says nothing to me, so there was a delay that's not uncommon when someone feels vulnerable to harassment. Plus I don't think he'd seen the footage earlier on.

Are you saying he scammed The Mittani out of isk?

Not so much scammed, as accepted what was offered without complaint. A bit of shrewd thinking really.
Kallynda Nai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3919 - 2012-03-28 20:17:58 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Kallynda Nai wrote:
Bolded the relevant part for you.

A minor correlation is not "plenty of credibility" for what you're accusing him of. But hey, you had the honesty of admitting you had no proof. I don't think more needs to be said.

I know it's hard, but try reading.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#3920 - 2012-03-28 20:18:10 UTC
It's occured to me that if The Mittani were truly sorry he'd have asked his swarm of Goons to be a little bit less agressive in this thread.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori