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Mittani - Resignation. Vote Yes or No. Simple.

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Lotta Mullarkey
Lotta Monkey Business
#241 - 2012-03-28 20:16:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Lotta Mullarkey
lachesis wrote:


but do you not think that if we as a community were not allowed to discuss this type of stuff on our own forums what would the rest of none playing observers think about what eve is all about ...at the end of the day we are all ambassadors for this game...


Discuss = Yes.
Which-hunt = No.

CCP, the CSM's and a mature player base should try to learn from this so it can be prevented from happening again in the future. Unfortunately, both CCP and the CSM's are remaining terribly quiet at the moment while the majority of the player base is screaming for blood. As if this is the only answer to the problem. There has to be a better and more constructive solution. I’m sorry to say, but we’re not doing a terrible good job at being “ambassadors of EVE” at the moment which I why I believe we're better of leaving this in the more capable hands of CCP and the CSM's. I hope they don't remain quiet for much longer.


DarthNefarius wrote:


I disagree reality TV 101...


Makes me realise that Endemol is pumping far worse crap into our living rooms than the stuff we’ve seen in the alliance panel.
lachesis
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#242 - 2012-03-28 20:23:32 UTC
Lotta Mullarkey wrote:
lachesis wrote:


but do you not think that if we as a community were not allowed to discuss this type of stuff on our own forums what would the rest of none playing observers think about what eve is all about ...at the end of the day we are all ambassadors for this game...


Discuss = Yes.
Which-hunt = No.

CCP, the CSM's and a mature player base should try to learn from this so it can be prevented from happening again in the future. Unfortunately, both CCP and the CSM's are remaining terribly quiet at the moment while the majority of the player base is screaming for blood. As if this is the only answer to the problem. There has to be a better and more constructive solution. I’m sorry to say, but we’re not doing a terrible good job at being “ambassadors of EVE” at the moment which I why I believe we're better of leaving this in the more capable hands of CCP and the CSM's. I hope they don't remain quiet for much longer.


DarthNefarius wrote:


I disagree reality TV 101...


Makes me realise that Endemol is pumping far worse crap into our living rooms than the stuff we’ve see in the alliance panel.



if you read my 1st post i distinctly said that this is getting to be a which hunt and i want it to stop its tearing the player base apart . i cant see how ccp can actually step in tbh because in essence he has done nothing wrong in game to warrant a ban ...he wasnt playing eve so i simply cannot see how they can do anything with regards to his conduct .he was represent eve...not playing it
Heet Crusher
Drunk Chaos
#243 - 2012-03-28 20:25:11 UTC
yes ban him deal with it
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#244 - 2012-03-28 20:27:16 UTC
IMO, it should not be up to the players. As with any large group, we are subject to mob mentality with which all reason and logic go out the window.


In the end it is up to CCP. I'll be content with whatever they decide is appropriate.
Bibosikus
Air
#245 - 2012-03-28 20:27:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Bibosikus
DarthNefarius wrote:

I disagree reality TV 101: just add alcohol you controversy & ratings go through the roof.
You need to go back to school kiddo... "there is no such thing as bad publicity" rule is giving Eve a spotlight right now.
I hope it does attract new subscribers.
/snip


Actually I have a BA(Hons) in Public Relations from Leeds Polytechnic (that was). You seem to think all PR is good PR and back it up by snatching at straws. CCP has a tiny fraction of the resources available to a frigging President fer Gawd's sake lol.

In this case, the crud is out there for all to see, in all its grubby reality. People have sadly grown up believing what they see on television, and increasingly also what they see on the Internet. Blame the media for that, as well as viewers' dumb acceptance of what's on the screen. But c'est la vie. This started out as an entertaining series of presentations and collapsed into a train wreck. There's no way back from it, any more than there would have been for 'that president' if Monica had filmed the 'alleged' incident and stuck it on YouTube.

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
lachesis
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#246 - 2012-03-28 20:41:05 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
IMO, it should not be up to the players. As with any large group, we are subject to mob mentality with which all reason and logic go out the window.


In the end it is up to CCP. I'll be content with whatever they decide is appropriate.



how can ccp step in ...he`s done nothing wrong in game because he wasnt playing the damned game at the time of his comments .... his punishemnt should be completley voluntary ...but decided by options voted upon by the eve player base 1 he leaves.2 he stays ...but then his punishment is decided upon by the player base by a democratic vote given by options by ccp .... if ccp say they listen to the playerbase ...then now of all times its now up to ccp to step up to the plate and prove they mean what they say .
radix29
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#247 - 2012-03-28 20:41:25 UTC
No.
Hello Kitty Online ---->
Dead Loss
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#248 - 2012-03-28 20:43:11 UTC
I voted for him at the CSM elections because from a point of view of the community (and not from the point of view of his character and him as a player), he has done a lot of good things in regards to pushing matters through to CCP and actually getting things done.

But the fact is that for what he did during Fanfest, he has to go and no amount of troll posting from Goonswarm members will make it less true. He can still remain in Goonswarm and be the hero he is there.

But further than just him, it's CCP who is to blame heavily here and I really hope that they will comment on this in the coming days.

It's absolutely not normal that CSM and Alliance leader members would be allowed to walk up on stage loaded and keep on drinking in front of cameras that actually transmit the show live all around the globe.

The game has a legal minimum of 13 years old to play (according to the EULA). If any thirteen year old kid decided he would want to see what's going on at Fanfest and would like to learn a bit about the new stuff going on in the alliances and decided to watch this, he would be pretty confused.

I wouldn't feel very happy as a father if my thirteen year old kid (which I don't have, only an 8 month old daughter) would watch that kind of behaviour from people supposed to represent the community he's a part of as a player.

So this is not about The Mittani calling out for "suicide bullshit whatever". This is about CCP allowing crap like what went down during Fanfest to go down.
But Mittens has to go anyway. He shouldn't be allowed to remain as head of the CSM after what he did. He should however remain on the CSM as a member, and in now way should he be banned from the game, that is just ********.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#249 - 2012-03-28 20:44:30 UTC
Bibosikus wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:

I disagree reality TV 101: just add alcohol you controversy & ratings go through the roof.
You need to go back to school kiddo... "there is no such thing as bad publicity" rule is giving Eve a spotlight right now.
I hope it does attract new subscribers.
/snip


Actually I have a BA(Hons) in Public Relations from Leeds Polytechnic (that was). You seem to think all PR is good PR and back it up by snatching at straws. CCP has a tiny fraction of the resources available to a frigging President fer Gawd's sake lol.

In this case, the crud is out there for all to see, in all its grubby reality. People have sadly grown up believing what they see on television, and increasingly also what they see on the Internet. Blame the media for that, as well as viewers' dumb acceptance of what's on the screen. But c'est la vie. This started out as an entertaining series of presentations and collapsed into a train wreck. There's no way back from it, any more than there would have been for 'that president' if Monica had filmed the 'alleged' incident and stuck it on YouTube.


Leeds? that UK or??? well reality TV 101 & internet 101 seem to teach new ideas which many are disgusted about but get used to it because its here tostay for quite a while more. Everbody loves watching a train wreck. Been interesting if Bill had a luv child from Monica like Herbert Hoover I seem to recall had & still got elected
Of course everything on the Internet is true I saw Obama's kenyan birth certificate the other day on the internet... speaking of straw snatches i saw one the other day on the internet also :)
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#250 - 2012-03-28 20:44:52 UTC
lachesis wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
IMO, it should not be up to the players. As with any large group, we are subject to mob mentality with which all reason and logic go out the window.


In the end it is up to CCP. I'll be content with whatever they decide is appropriate.



how can ccp step in ...he`s done nothing wrong in game because he wasnt playing the damned game at the time of his comments .... his punishemnt should be completley voluntary ...but decided by options voted upon by the eve player base 1 he leaves.2 he stays ...but then his punishment is decided upon by the player base by a democratic vote given by options by ccp .... if ccp say they listen to the playerbase ...then now of all times its now up to ccp to step up to the plate and prove they mean what they say .

It was a CCP event. CCP can choose the consequences independent of the hoards of stupid players.
Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#251 - 2012-03-28 20:55:57 UTC
no
Fradle
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#252 - 2012-03-28 21:01:18 UTC
no
lachesis
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#253 - 2012-03-28 21:04:50 UTC
yes it certainley was a ccp event ...but when was the last time a player banned from playing eve because he attended a ccp event making silly crass comments and being bolloxed ...in the 9 years of playing ive not heard of one ... if at the end of the day IF he was a member of the ccp team he would prolly been sacked for his comments ...... but as i have already said he said what he said as an individual while REPRESENTING the eve comunity NOT CCP .... and he as our COMMUNITY CHAIRMAN needs to answer in some way or another by decisions made by the player base for portraying us as the eve playing community in such an embarrassing light

ive never been so embarrassed in the nine years of playing eve since the fanfest ..... and the player base should decide what to do with him ....not ccp .

Zleon Leigh
#254 - 2012-03-28 21:04:56 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
IMO, it should not be up to the players. As with any large group, we are subject to mob mentality with which all reason and logic go out the window.


In the end it is up to CCP. I'll be content with whatever they decide is appropriate.


So - how about CCP? What's it going to be?

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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#255 - 2012-03-28 21:26:15 UTC
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