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Zircon Dasher
#1 - 2012-03-28 19:51:27 UTC
Yesterday the most uber of all the NPC killers managed to destroy 3,472 NPCs.
He is a titan pilot.
Several other top 10 NPC killers are also titan pilots.

Cost wise: Titan>>>>>>>>>>> the Shiniest of BS in highsec incursions.
Income wise (if you believe the trolls): HS Incursions>> lowsec,0.0, and WH

SOOooo, several of the top NPC killers are "risking" significantly more expensive ships to reap less rewards.

Makes you wonder if the risk vs. reward model is a bit........ off.

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.

Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-03-28 19:52:30 UTC
Holy crap, someone's actually botting in a Titan? That takes some testicular fortitude.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#3 - 2012-03-28 19:56:50 UTC
The titan insurance payout of 650 million ISK. That's the wrong part.

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adam smash
Department of Gub'nent Welfare
Harkonnen Federation
#4 - 2012-03-28 19:59:47 UTC
I mean it shows how dangerous it is to be in one right? lol...

Ratting in your titan...

What about the PL smart bomb lowsec camping titan.

Ya I mean, we SO need higher insurance payouts... and less risk...

Titans are never used they just have so much risk! Roll

seany1212
M Y S T
#5 - 2012-03-28 19:59:50 UTC
Wait until the nerf hits, see if it changes Smile
El 1974
Green Visstick High
#6 - 2012-03-28 20:02:29 UTC
3,472 NPC ships. In a titan he'll probably ignore the frigates. So what is that in bounties, 3 B? That's a lot more than you make with incursions.
No risk of losing his Titan to the NPCs, while you can lose your pimped Bs in an hisec incursion if one of your teammates messes up. Incursions need a buff. Twisted
Dusenman
Sensible People
Sigma Grindset
#7 - 2012-03-28 20:02:49 UTC
It is a ship that cannot dock. So if your not off fighting or bashing something, might as well pay for the POS that is protecting it. But that is the way that I look at it.

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Dbars Grinding
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-03-28 20:03:46 UTC
You would be surprised how many red x's you can kill when you are high.

I have more space likes than you. 

Gustav Knuttsen
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-03-28 20:07:42 UTC
Its very effective you cant even imagine how much effective.

Think ! Why CCP is doing nothing with "Dread Boost" :) huh ? yeah that's the answer. Coz it can be the best ratting ship in game... So called Dreads Boost will never come. Im sure
Zircon Dasher
#10 - 2012-03-28 20:23:35 UTC
Oops forgot:

As always, this golden statistical nugget was brought to you by CCP Diagoras and his twitter account of awesome

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.

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Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#11 - 2012-03-28 20:27:12 UTC
That's a kill every 24 seconds. With only 30 minutes of downtime. Not the easiest of things to do.

Hell, I'd probably throw that to Sreegs to have a look at.

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Zircon Dasher
#12 - 2012-03-28 20:45:21 UTC
I would be willing to bet the top 50 all need to be sent to Sreegs lol.

Hell then we could delete at least 4 titans and god-knows how many other caps.

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.

Ocih
Space Mermaids
#13 - 2012-03-28 20:47:31 UTC
Not to worry. When the scan res is 5 and they can only have 3 locks Titan PvE won't be an option.

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Zircon Dasher
#14 - 2012-03-28 21:02:08 UTC
You mean the scan res change that is not happening?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87286&find=unread

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.

Ocih
Space Mermaids
#15 - 2012-03-28 21:24:08 UTC
Zircon Dasher wrote:
You mean the scan res change that is not happening?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87286&find=unread


Thanks for linking. Glad to see they pulled back on that. Not to go off topic though, I still don't have an issue with Titan PvE. I wouldn't do it but the unavoidable truth is, they have limited value in the game and if someone wants to log thier char in and shoot some squares let them. Beats griefing faction war people in my view.

The alternative right now is to cancel your sub for 6 months so the Titan docks at your clone station and you can store it.
Zircon Dasher
#16 - 2012-03-28 21:35:24 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Zircon Dasher wrote:
You mean the scan res change that is not happening?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87286&find=unread


Thanks for linking. Glad to see they pulled back on that. Not to go off topic though, I still don't have an issue with Titan PvE. I wouldn't do it but the unavoidable truth is, they have limited value in the game and if someone wants to log thier char in and shoot some squares let them. Beats griefing faction war people in my view.

The alternative right now is to cancel your sub for 6 months so the Titan docks at your clone station and you can store it.


np.

To be clear: I have no issue with titans/SC/carriers/Dreds/whatever doing PVE. In fact I have no "issue" at all.

Just thought it was interesting given the "risk vs. reward" mantra. I have never met a bot with "balls of steel" so if someone is botting in a titan there must be very little risk of it actually assploding. I guess it is also possible that people have finally thrown up thier hands and said "its a GAME. Who Cares?!", which would mean that balancing on risk vs. reward is inefficient now. Like I said, just interesting.Big smile

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.

Aranakas
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-03-28 21:36:40 UTC
Zircon Dasher wrote:
Yesterday the most uber of all the NPC killers managed to destroy 3,472 NPCs.
He is a titan pilot.
Several other top 10 NPC killers are also titan pilots.

Cost wise: Titan>>>>>>>>>>> the Shiniest of BS in highsec incursions.
Income wise (if you believe the trolls): HS Incursions>> lowsec,0.0, and WH

SOOooo, several of the top NPC killers are "risking" significantly more expensive ships to reap less rewards.

Makes you wonder if the risk vs. reward model is a bit........ off.


Titans are weapons of war, not police ships.

Aranakas CEO of Green Anarchy Green vs Green

Azriel Geist
Pure Victory
#18 - 2012-03-28 21:42:06 UTC
Xython wrote:
Holy crap, someone's actually botting in a Titan? That takes some testicular fortitude.


Holy crap someone is actually posting about spaceship questions in GD? NO WAI!
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#19 - 2012-03-28 21:45:38 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
That's a kill every 24 seconds. With only 30 minutes of downtime. Not the easiest of things to do.

Hell, I'd probably throw that to Sreegs to have a look at.


You want Sreegs to have a look at spawn rates?

Because botting or not that's a lot of kills.

Mr Epeen Cool
Rukia Taika
Allied Operations
Mechanicus Macabre Immortale
#20 - 2012-03-28 22:18:48 UTC
Zircon Dasher wrote:
Yesterday the most uber of all the NPC killers managed to destroy 3,472 NPCs.
He is a titan pilot.
Several other top 10 NPC killers are also titan pilots.

Cost wise: Titan>>>>>>>>>>> the Shiniest of BS in highsec incursions.
Income wise (if you believe the trolls): HS Incursions>> lowsec,0.0, and WH

SOOooo, several of the top NPC killers are "risking" significantly more expensive ships to reap less rewards.

Makes you wonder if the risk vs. reward model is a bit........ off.

nice forum alt. and if he is out ratting ina Titan is because thats all its good for now with all the nerfs that hit the titans. yes i know cannot dock the titan thats why you have a deep safe and log out or better yet a POS.

Risk is the nature of 0.0 not many incursion runners wish to run down there and pop the incursion in your area of space cause they been popped by some of the big alliance blocks and got killed. thats why they do not go is because you pissed on them.

Just maybe people will just grow up and stop bitching about how others play the game. its my decision how i wish to run...NOT YOURS or some scumbag GOON alliance
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