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EVE, gone GRIEFING

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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#81 - 2012-03-28 13:44:03 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
I contacted CCP about this as I was suspicious of his ability to repair his sec status, with such rapidity.

Apparently I was not the first to do so, and 'the matter is being investigated for possible mechanical exploit'.

I guess we will know the answer in a few days or so.

I'm curious as to what this guy discovered....not that it will be handy once we find out.........oh well.


Nom nom speculation, interweb spaceship pixeldramalamasoap, best soap, etc.

Alot of people also don't really know how easy you can work up sec, but that's for another thread.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.

Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#82 - 2012-03-28 13:47:01 UTC


Posting irrelevant videos of fits that no longer work due to changes made by CCP to support your argument: win.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#83 - 2012-03-28 14:08:34 UTC
Those men are heroes.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#84 - 2012-03-28 14:21:08 UTC
Tippia wrote:
TravisWB wrote:
A -10 sec status player should not be able to enter any system above .5 ever. The gates should simply just not work for them

Funny thing is, this is already the case…



WRONG !!!!!

A -10 Pod can fly to an Orca full of Catalysts even if he managed somehow a -12. Roll

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#85 - 2012-03-28 14:22:10 UTC
Misanth wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
I contacted CCP about this as I was suspicious of his ability to repair his sec status, with such rapidity.

Apparently I was not the first to do so, and 'the matter is being investigated for possible mechanical exploit'.

I guess we will know the answer in a few days or so.

I'm curious as to what this guy discovered....not that it will be handy once we find out.........oh well.


Nom nom speculation, interweb spaceship pixeldramalamasoap, best soap, etc.

Alot of people also don't really know how easy you can work up sec, but that's for another thread.



It ain't so much that as managing to get all the pods too. SOLO.

Exploit reek detected.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Severe Pain
Paladin Order
#86 - 2012-03-28 14:25:17 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
I contacted CCP about this as I was suspicious of his ability to repair his sec status, with such rapidity.


Well this sounds kinda interesting. My sec status is -10, so how much sec status repairing I have done lately? Or do you mean that it went down to -10 way too fast? :) But surely everyone knows that ratting in 0.0 will bring your sec status up from -10 to 0 in about a week or two.

TravisWB wrote:
Well
And who are they killing?
Clueless noobs for the most part The average Hulk pilot has been in the game way less than a year, doesn't really understand local, or contacts, or tank, or mechanics, or anything. THEY ARE NOOBS

And this is the meat upon which the dogs of EVE PVP feast. The helpless, defenseless and clueless


Totally noobs don't have isks or skills to fly a hulk. Those "noobs" who are now flying hulks and getting killed just don't know their place in EVE universe :) It is ok to get killed once, but if you keep dying then you are too stubborn or stupid to learn from the loss. They have options of die some more, tank their ship, be an alert all the time or just move up to some 0.7-1.0.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#87 - 2012-03-28 14:26:02 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Funny thing is, this is already the case…
WRONG !!!!!

A -10 Pod can fly to an Orca full of Catalysts even if he managed somehow a -12. Roll
No, because he's dead and back in the medical bay. So it is indeed already the case… if you choose it to be so.

Also, text doesn't get any bolder just because you mash the button three times.
BeanBagKing
The Order of Atlas
#88 - 2012-03-28 14:32:52 UTC
Ptraci wrote:


Posting irrelevant videos of fits that no longer work due to changes made by CCP to support your argument: win.


My point was not that you should try to copy/paste a several year old fit, it was that players can and sometimes do decide to fight back and they can win. I've seen creative players kill a megathron with an itty 5 and one killed a dramiel (pre patch) with a badger II. I feel pretty confident that if some people put as much energy into fighting back (or hell, simply surviving) as they do posting on the forums about how unfair it all is, they'd probably be doing much better.

Or, TBH, if it truly is that it's no longer possible to fit a good tank, then petitioning CCP to iterate on the hulk and look at the CPU, or powergrid, or whatever and explaining exactly why these changes are needed would still be a better use of your time.

Instead there's threads like this one. "The griefing needs to end!". Someone on the first page issued the challenge to find a damage control on just one of those Hulks... never saw an answer to it. I'm sure that, as many as there are, you might be able to find one. The point was made though, the vast majority of those fits don't even TRY to live, and then people are angry when they don't?

I'd be much more likely to feel pity for miners if I saw hulks being fit with buffer and sacrificing just one low for a damage control and still getting killed, then you might have an argument that its an inherent flaw in the design, that there's no way possible to make them survive. As it stands though, this isn't being shown.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#89 - 2012-03-28 14:43:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Severe Pain wrote:
Totally noobs don't have isks or skills to fly a hulk. Those "noobs" who are now flying hulks and getting killed just don't know their place in EVE universe :) It is ok to get killed once, but if you keep dying then you are too stubborn or stupid to learn from the loss. They have options of die some more, tank their ship, be an alert all the time or just move up to some 0.7-1.0.




Read the mails.

I mean READ them.

These are experienced players, some of them, and they do not AFK. I lived for a year where this is occurring in Genesis and I recognize MANY of the names.

Dude is getting the PODS.

This has NOTHING to do with Hulk Tanking.......and everything to do with an EXPLOIT.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#90 - 2012-03-28 14:45:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Tippia wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Funny thing is, this is already the case…
WRONG !!!!!

A -10 Pod can fly to an Orca full of Catalysts even if he managed somehow a -12. Roll
No, because he's dead and back in the medical bay. So it is indeed already the case… if you choose it to be so.

Also, text doesn't get any bolder just because you mash the button three times.



Did somebody fart ?

Man, you are an easy shot if BOLDING makes you irritated................Roll

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Nuela
WoT Misfits
#91 - 2012-03-28 14:54:27 UTC
What I find fascinating that a true Eve Miner, and the alliance I am in is full of them, WELCOMES ganking hulks in hisec!

These guys know what they are doing and have good, defensive Hulk fits and they LIKE the idea that gankers are hurting their competition making what they mine worth more.

Just like I like mission runner gankers. I don't run a shiney ship so if I lose one (and I have) it will cost the gankers more than I lose and they usually leave me alone. However, by them ganking shiney mission runner ships they cut down on competition making my LP worth more.

Ninja salvagers, gankers, wardeccers, etc They are part of the spice of Eve.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#92 - 2012-03-28 14:55:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Tippia wrote:
No, because he's dead and back in the medical bay.



Erm...there are Medical Bays in those very systems.

Face it Tippia, you cannot 'win' this one.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#93 - 2012-03-28 15:02:32 UTC
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