EVE General Discussion

Disagree.

titans for example. They're about to be nerfed to an extent where they are going to be given a different role. For how much they cost, It's not something you warp around with your home defense fleet.

A lot about command ships need to be fixed before they start making bonuses on-grid. Not to mention fleet bonuses break after you do a session change, I don't see this particular part of the game being touched for a while.

Definitely require a fleet booster be on grid. In regard to defense why not a modification to fit a purely defensive siege module?
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Allrigth, throwing in my two cents on this matter, after reading most but not all of the posts to thei thread are about Combat activities, but to be honest, not all aspects in Eve are just combat focused, please remember about the industrials / miners which enjoy the bonus given from a Off grid Rorqual or Ecellent skilled Orca pilot beeing on Safe spot or under POS FF, Remove the complete Off grid Boost will hurt them such massively Miners will get another knife in their back brougth to them by CCP and favorited by the whiney PvPlers not beeing able to find a solution for enemy boosters.

Most of you PvPlers brougth very valid points but selfish and egoistic like most of yours are forget there are other aspects jobs wihtin Eve also profiting from this Off grid bonus......So please....Stop whinning find another solution then removing Off grid Boosts PERIOD.

Anyway: a booster should be on grid. You want to fight with bonuses? Be on grid visually. But what about fleet bonuses? If boosters have to be on grid the fleet booster should be logically on grid, too. Otherwise: no bonuses.

I'm glad none of you work at CCP, because all these ideas are terrible.



also: Nerfing off-grid boosting will only buff blobs.



T3s aren't "OP". A T3 can fit only 1 link right out the box with a stronger bonus. A fleet command ship can fit 3, as well as a beastly tank.

If you want to make the T3 fit three links then you gimp the fit so much it gets 2 shotted by anything, does no dps, does nothing.

The biggest reason not to nerf off-grid boosting is that it becomes a disincentive to splitting your fleet into smaller groups. A fleet of 250 will have to stay mobbed up around their booster or lose all of their bonuses.

Off-grid boosters allow the same fleet to split up to perform different missions within the same system and although there is not yet a true incentive to do that it has been said many times that that is what CCP want to achieve.

If you are in a 'safe' area then bring the fat-boy in with you .. saves a ton of logistics as you can compress on site. If you have roamers playing tag with the always inept patrol fleets (speaking as an old miner, damn pew'ers were always late ) then you bring a CS .. costs you 10-15% bonus at most and he can double as rat controller freeing up whomever was/is doing that.

Sure, if you absolutely want to put all your eggs in that one basket. Imagine if you brought more than one booster though, one per wing .. one per squad .. with the fleet booster tagging along to be present when the **** hits the ventilation.
The reason for fleets only having the one booster is squarely on the fact that we can currently get away with having the one 5-6 link hull sitting somewhere safe, whereas we have all gotten accustomed to redundancy in all other -secondary- hull types with fleets being padded with DPS after tackle/ewar/logis is in place .. about time links were treated in a similar fashion.

No need, it falls under "using the right tool for the job". Same as for wanting eWar (non-ECM variety) deployed in blob fights, the ships with bonuses wont survive so one sacrifices efficiency for survivability by fitting the modules to BCs/BS'/Capitals.

If the CS gets volleyed repeatedly stripping you of all bonuses, then accepting the ~15% lower bonus from a carrier/SC would be infinitely better as you actually get to enjoy the bonuses, albeit lower, for the duration of the fight .. or at least longer than a flock of Sebo'd tier3 BC takes to lock.

It is all about choice and consequence.

Won't this likely be a mid-slot? So shield command ships will have to sacrifice tank while armor will have to sacrifice nothing?

Clicking "assign as booster" is cumbersome? If that is your tolerance level then it is a wonder you are playing Eve to be honest
- Imagine if an FC could not only assign a booster but have a boost-list to manipulate, so whenever one booster goes offline (dead, warps, etc.) the next one down is automatically applied ..
- POS/Sov is being revamped (again), Dust is looming near and Moons are likely to be hammered at some point. Imagine if something like a cyno-jammer was attached to a planetary orbital structure (think POCO) and vulnerable from both space and surface, no one is advocating a straight switch to on-grid as it would likely break more than is healthy.
Or simpler still .. what if links were unable to activate while inside a forcefield?
So in that super extreme scenario you believe the bonuses from said links would be able to save the day? And you do not see a problem with what is essentially an invulnerable ship projecting that kind of power? .. foot meet shotgun.


So being able to increase the power of up to 250 people by 50%+ from anywhere in a system is perfectly fine because a max skilled, implanted and faction fitted covert can catch them provided they are stationary and AFK/dual-boxed?
Doesn't matter if you give them a sig size of a Titan, you are still left with a mechanic that provides almost unlimited benefit without being in direct danger.

PS: Boosted Tengu's are yesteryears news, now its boosted AF's .. just sayin'

I disagree 100% with 'don't nerf my booster-alt' OP

Off-grid booster-alts have become both mandatory and a choice with no consequence. The double whammy of fail.