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Misanth

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#301 - 2012-03-28 00:10:27 UTC

Lyron-Baktos wrote:

for it

all you people still running single core chips on windows XP, time to start upgrading

That's a stupid argument.

a) many of us are running alot better stuff than that, but the innate nature of EVE and simple fact is that many people are multiboxing, in fleet fights the standard is to run everything on low/minimum settings/brackets off, etc
b) add to that that many of us don't give a **** about the graphics in EVE, simply put, this game always been about the sandbox and content, it's not a lulul fluff Gears of War-game with 10 hours of awsome looking gameplay that is stone dead afterward, in fact I believe most people I know play more or less max zoomed out nonstop
c) single-shard server, universal, means we have players from countries where it's not that easy to get highend PC's and internet, yah it's unfortunate and noones fault, should not hold game back etc etc, but this is exactly why your argument doesn't work. What you should do is argue that it should be options both for high end as well as low end. Unless for some magic reason CCP will want to force off alot of customers, it should be in their interest as well to make it optional, not enforced.

I have one 'ok' and one 'damn fine' stationary, I could easily handle updated graphics but have zero interest in it. And especially, really don't want to see EVE compromising multiboxing and throwing off certain demographics, just to appeal to portions of the playerbase. It needs to maintain the accessability is currently has, without putting off those who want better graphics.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.

Ruthless Regiment SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY 164
Scorsigaar Ruthless Regiment SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY Likes received: 164	#302 - 2012-03-28 00:14:45 UTC Do it

The Scope Gallente Federation 747
Montevius Williams The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 747	#303 - 2012-03-28 00:19:01 UTC If you are against this, you need to just get out of EVE and go play nintendo or something - CCP, Push my graphics card to its limit! Thats what I bought it for! "The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB

The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 226
NeoShocker The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People Likes received: 226	#304 - 2012-03-28 01:32:06 UTC I see potential in this. Not only that people can work for the GPU ingame without spending a cent, but people have no excuse for not having a good GPU (other than having a AGP mobo) to keep up the Eve graphic updates demand. People will still need to worry about PSU tho', but even that isn't much to spend for.

The Scope 941
YuuKnow The Scope Likes received: 941	#305 - 2012-03-28 01:37:19 UTC The question is not asked precisely enough. The skins themselves are fine as they are and don't need upgrading... but I would love CCP to instead invest more in weapon effects, missiles, shields, and hit effects. yk

The Scope Gallente Federation 36
Frozen Guardian The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 36	#306 - 2012-03-28 02:13:24 UTC Yes, yes, ohh god yes.

Aliastra Gallente Federation 15
WaterTempleFiend en Marland Aliastra Gallente Federation Likes received: 15	#307 - 2012-03-28 02:29:47 UTC Yes ONLY IF it doesn't mean older machines cannot run it.. give the choice, if there is choice then do it. i just dont wanna have to buy upgrade after upgrade https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=59576&find=unread - Dat mac heat up thread

Misanth

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#308 - 2012-03-28 03:41:30 UTC

Montevius Williams wrote:

If you are against this, you need to just get out of EVE and go play nintendo or something - CCP, Push my graphics card to its limit! Thats what I bought it for!

What's wrong with Nintendo? And are you talking about the old grey box or modern stuff? You know 'Nintendo' is not a single released product right?

Why so hate.. Ice Climber is still one of the best games ever made. Sad

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.

Solar Rift

The Scope

Gallente Federation

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#309 - 2012-03-28 10:25:25 UTC

My thoughts are as follows:

Though i personally would love to see this in game. I also realize that this will take a dedicated team 1 year to complete (2 expansions worth of time). As such, I would like to ask that work on this project not begin until AFTER Inferno is released, and even then, it is only worked on as a part time project. Take a year and a half instead of a year to get it out and that will give more time to working on the existing game and bettering it for players in general.

IE - do it but don't take a team away who could be working on the next expansion for a full year. Let the project take longer and do it over "free time" compared to working in a dedicated time frame of a single year.

Cadre Assault Force 150
Stoogie Cadre Assault Force Likes received: 150	#310 - 2012-03-28 10:30:17 UTC yes upgrade it

Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 21
Nazowa Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation Likes received: 21	#311 - 2012-03-28 10:36:29 UTC EvE is at the stage where it can use a bit more make up. I am for a graphic update.

Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 716
TheBlueMonkey Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation Likes received: 716	#312 - 2012-03-28 10:39:02 UTC most of the tme I played almost fully zoomed out so I can't say I care too much tbh

Rykuss

KarmaFleet

Goonswarm Federation

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#313 - 2012-03-28 10:47:34 UTC

I'm indifferent about it, myself. Having upgraded to a GTX 560 recently, I'll be fine but I don't have my settings maxed or anything. That's not why I play. I'd also say to anyone thinking about PLEXing to get this card, you might want to hold off. It's not a bad card but it definitely has some issues, especially where video is concerned. The latest "stable" drivers suck as well. Some of us have rolled back to an old driver released last year for the time being.

You, too, can be a Solid Gold dancer.

Machiavellian Space Bastards 28,489
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards Likes received: 28,489	#314 - 2012-03-28 10:49:52 UTC Do it, do it soon, the presentation material was fantastic In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack

Doomheim 164
Raven Ether Doomheim Likes received: 164	#315 - 2012-03-28 10:55:47 UTC Graphics eye candy kan haz i??

Blue Harrier

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#316 - 2012-03-28 11:01:37 UTC

Pretty graphics do not make a great game, gameplay makes a great game, pretty graphics make a great game better.

Take the inhabitants of Eve, you have the spreadsheet kings, all they need is a whiz-bang market interface, the industrialists, they need easy access to their building and construction interfaces, the casual player with a low end or laptop, they need a GPU friendly game, and the PVP group with everything on low or off, none of these need top of the range graphics to play their game.

Lastly you have the ‘I must have the best graphics and be able to see the bug on the flea’s back standing on the dogs back from 4,000 yards’ brigade.

I’ve seen this in Skyrim, when the game was first released there were complaint after complaint the graphics were rubbish, low grade, not fit for purpose etc. Funny thing was the game was great; I loved it from day one (same as I love Eve), then they brought out a High Res pack, did it make the game better?
No, the game played the same and to me even though I downloaded the pack (it did make it look prettier), the only thing that mattered was the game play fixes that went before.

So CCP yes upgrade the graphics for the ‘I must have’ brigade, but take your time, put all the fixes in place first and improve as and when you can. Also make the DX11 an option not a mandate.

"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982.

The Hatchery RAZOR Alliance 90
Firebolt145 The Hatchery RAZOR Alliance Likes received: 90	#317 - 2012-03-28 11:23:09 UTC As long as users have the option to use the 'old' graphics, then this would be great. What we don't want is a repeat of Captains Quarters where CCP took away ship spinning and put in CQ without giving us any choice.

No Shoosting 14
Wille Sanara No Shoosting Likes received: 14	#318 - 2012-03-28 11:25:18 UTC Yes, I want. It will bring to EVE the effects and graphics I dreamed about and althought I dont have probably hardware good enough to use it right now, it will take pretty long time to implement it and there will be always option to turn it off, so whats the deal? lets get it done, CCP

Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 193
JamDunc Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore Likes received: 193	#319 - 2012-03-28 22:17:45 UTC CCP have added a devblog on this topic now https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87266&find=unread Looks like its happening.