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EVE, gone GRIEFING

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Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-03-28 07:04:59 UTC
It isnt griefing, it is helping the marketing sector sell hulks.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Ch3244
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2012-03-28 07:10:41 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
It isnt griefing, it is helping the marketing sector sell hulks.

economics 101
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#43 - 2012-03-28 08:35:17 UTC
Aranakas wrote:
Miners are just playing the game the way they were intended to. They have no recourse for this sort of action. Anyways, next expansion this will change.


Wishful thinking at it's finest. You must be new to EvE.

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Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#44 - 2012-03-28 08:54:16 UTC
Why go to the part of eve where PvP is allowed and encouraged?

Oh yeah, thats right, targets in high-sec don't shoot back. Oh and its pretty much risk-free isk.

Gankers can't handle "actual" PvP, its as simple as that. Why bother when you can make yourself feel awesome with all those defenceless kills?

Forcing PvP onto those not interested in it, as well as newer players, is ultimately harming eve's continued development. What incentive do carebears and new players have to naturally move to low and null sec? They're already getting pwned in high by people collecting tears for their own amusement.

I for one believe that eve has two sides, equally important, PvP and PvE. Whatever side players get their enjoyment should be respected. PvP players have most of the galaxy to do their thing, and PvE players are happy in empire doing all those boring things, mining, hauling, making stuff, playing with spreadsheets etc. Thats what makes eve so awesome, that it is vast in its application, and people can get from it what they put in, and what they enjoy.

Never quite understood this vendeta that many PvP players have towards carebears, other than as i stated they don't shoot back. Personally, i think gankers have forced the issue. I now welcome and look forward to changes that make their life increasingly difficult. They might actually have to, "GASP!", fight people that fight back? OMG!

Of course, my opinion changes instantly if they actually fix the bounty system, but i think we all know by now thats never going to happen. Having a possible responce to ganking for players with no interest in PvP would justify ganking imo.

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Karim alRashid
Starboard.
#45 - 2012-03-28 08:56:38 UTC
TravisWB wrote:
Sadly, this game has degenerated into a hisec griefest.

EVE, nothing but grief.



Just quit. The fault is with your expectations, not with the game.

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Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#46 - 2012-03-28 08:59:32 UTC
On behalf of Ore Mongers i would officially like to welcome the OP to Eve Online!
Karim alRashid
Starboard.
#47 - 2012-03-28 09:03:25 UTC
Xen, if they are bad at PvP, why don't you do something about it, like destroy their ships?

Is it because you're even worse?

Pain is weakness leaving the body http://www.youtube.com/user/AlRashidKarim/videos
Bubanni
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2012-03-28 09:11:44 UTC
I am feeling like ganking some hulks the next few days :) hmm

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Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2012-03-28 09:14:57 UTC
Bubanni wrote:
I am feeling like ganking some hulks the next few days :) hmm


I'm giving away prizes for that. Go check C&P for the Crime Spree thread!

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Memrox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2012-03-28 09:17:05 UTC
Right im placing a bounty on the OP's head, I want him ganked until more tears flow, 10mil for every kill and once you make 15 kills you get the 500mil Bonus Prize.

Let the games begin!
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#51 - 2012-03-28 09:18:38 UTC
Aranakas wrote:
Miners are just playing the game the way they were intended to.
So are the gankers.
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They have no recourse for this sort of action. Anyways, next expansion this will change.
No. Next expansion will leave them with the exact same recourses that they have now, which they will still refuse to use.

TravisWB wrote:
Just what can a Hulk do when these griefers show up?
Pay attention, don't go AFK, tank your ship. It works. Also, stay aligned.

Cap Tyrian wrote:
No OP has a point, this is not PVP its pure harassment, i find such behavior disgusting!

There is no Honor in his actions, and ruining the game play experience for people like me who Love eve for its Industrial aspects.
The awesome Sandbox, mining, constructing, trading.
Lol Humour. Nice one.
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-03-28 09:20:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Anya Ohaya
Never mind the bollocks. Buy Tritanium.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#53 - 2012-03-28 09:27:41 UTC
Xen Solarus wrote:
Why go to the part of eve where PvP is allowed and encouraged?
You mean to highsec?

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Forcing PvP onto those not interested in it, as well as newer players, is ultimately harming eve's continued development.
…so much so that they are incorporating that facet of the game into their marketing campaign.

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What incentive do carebears and new players have to naturally move to low and null sec? They're already getting pwned in high by people collecting tears for their own amusement.
You'd think that moving the low and null wouldn't be so bad as many claim, then.

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I for one believe that eve has two sides, equally important, PvP and PvE.
Nah. It has two sides: combat and industry. Both are PvP.
Severe Pain
Paladin Order
#54 - 2012-03-28 11:55:35 UTC
Hi guys!

Me and my corpmates do get quite a lot of feedback of what we are doing. Some are positive, but most of them are obviously kinda negative :) Some say that what we do isn't PVPing or that we suck in PVP and that is why we are only ganking "hopeless" miners. Some say that they have reported me because of hacking and being a bot, so maybe Im just way too effective to being a normal player :) But anyway...I will not start debating or lecturing which aspects I would category as PVPing.

I've been playing EVE for 7 years. I've been ganking miners for 2 weeks. That is what is fun for me at the moment. It is just one of those few aspect of this game which I haven't explored before. It is allowed by CCP and by game mechanics. CCP has designed this MMORG some what differently than other MMORGs and EVE only have one server cluster where every player can do whatever they want.

Oh, and I don't hate carebears or miners or huggers or roids or trees...There isn't any personal vendetta behind what I do. So Iam rather nice guy, even though I shoot your pixel ship with my pixel guns.

Maybe it is time to form some "rock hugging" organization to defend all those poor roids from destruction. Free all roid, they have feelings too :)

Fly safe and have fun,


SP
gfldex
#55 - 2012-03-28 12:01:36 UTC
TravisWB wrote:
It is griefing pure and simple.


No, it's profitable.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#56 - 2012-03-28 12:04:28 UTC
They invented this new tactic for not dieing a while back, its called fitting a tank.

Try it.
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#57 - 2012-03-28 12:11:11 UTC
Cap Tyrian wrote:
No OP has a point, this is not PVP its pure harassment, i find such behavior disgusting!

There is no Honor in his actions, and ruining the game play experience for people like me who Love eve for its Industrial aspects.
The awesome Sandbox, mining, constructing, trading.
Certainly destruction must be in that cycle but that should not involve those who do not wish for conflict.

Suicide ganking in high-sec is not PvP, it is completely one sided.
I can not support such actions. Shame on those gankers, you have no Honor.

Greetings,
Cap Tyrian


Haha. Btw I think the word you were looking for was honoUr.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.
Kyle Yanowski
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#58 - 2012-03-28 12:18:32 UTC
Sokniw wrote:
they can warp away.. eve is like real life, who is to stop anyone from doing anything.. concord is there to enforce.. he kills a hulk.. he looses his ship. you rob a bank you go to jail..




The original poster has a point. You, however, are misguided.

A hulk can,t warp away, because of the hulks terrible align time and acceleration. And a hulk cannot tank an overheated catalyst.... No matter the tank configuration.

Bottom line, since the catalyst revisions, they are now the #1 ship of choice for highsec ganking. This was an oversight, and it should be addressed.

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Plaude Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2012-03-28 12:18:46 UTC
I don't Suicide Gank Hulks myself, mostly because I don't have the ISK or SP to pull it off without losing my ship, but some of those Hulks... They are in a better place now. That is, not in their owners' hangars. It's amazing how one can fail to outfit a ship for the one task it exists for.

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Kyle Yanowski
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#60 - 2012-03-28 12:22:11 UTC
[quote=Danny John-Peter]They invented this new tactic for not dieing a while back, its called fitting a tank.

Try it.[/]

Feller. Go sit in . 5 with your tanked hulk, aligned to a station, but stationary [ so you can actually mine rock] and see how long you last.

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