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CSM Candidate Eligibility - Forum activity
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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#1 - 2012-03-28 07:25:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Roime
This if from http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM the chapter concerning eligibility:

Quote:
Candidates are expected to be active on the CSM forums and participate in the discussion of topics.


The reason I post this is because I believe there is now an elected member who doesn't come even close fulfilling this requirement.

Greene Lee - she has a total of THREE (3) posts on the CSM forum, all in her candidacy thread. Rest few posts are in the character bazaar.

Why I take an issue with this? Because communication with the whole playerbase is obviously the single most important task of a CSM member. The requirement for active participation in discussion should be enforced.

DISCLAIMER: I have no political agenda, I have no stake in 0.0 politics. I have an issue with a community representative who has never even communicated with the community.

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-03-28 07:25:56 UTC
yeah but he wins elections so suck it
-a- for life
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-03-28 07:26:57 UTC
Agreed, CSM people should me more active then 3 posts.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Kehro Urgus
Dark Nebula Academy
O X I D E
#4 - 2012-03-28 07:29:33 UTC
If I see one more Patrick Swayze reference I... I... will... hold my breath until I pass out.Oops

Yeeee! 
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-03-28 07:30:11 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Agreed, CSM people should me more active then 3 posts.



No argument here.

They wanted the job, they should put in the effort.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-03-28 07:32:04 UTC
Kehro Urgus wrote:
If I see one more Patrick Swayze reference I... I... will... hold my breath until I pass out.Oops

I bet Patrick Swayze could hold his breath longer than you before he passed out.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-03-28 07:33:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
RougeOperator wrote:
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Agreed, CSM people should me more active then 3 posts.



No argument here.

They wanted the job, they should put in the effort.

got over 3000 votes, more then your boy Hans
player base is obviously satisfied with the effort put in, sorry you're not
Vordak Kallager
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#8 - 2012-03-28 07:40:35 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Agreed, CSM people should me more active then 3 posts.



No argument here.

They wanted the job, they should put in the effort.

got over 3000 votes, more then your boy Hans
player base is obviously satisfied with the effort put in, sorry you're not


Regardless, they are on CSM and therefore represent all of EVE. I think it is silly to suggest any kind of enforcement of Councilor-Public interaction on CCP's part, but it would be gratifying to see all the Councilors interact with the public in some fashion whether that is through Twitter, a personal Blog or the official forums instead of keeping to their own Alliance/Coalition channels and forums. vOv

To be honest though, it doesn't really matter as long as they are cooperating with the rest of CSM and contributing to the Skype discussions. vOv

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2012-03-28 07:48:30 UTC
I dont think he should be disqualified or anything, he should just be told to become more active, and he should step up a bit.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-03-28 07:49:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Florestan Bronstein
Roime wrote:
This if from http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM, the chapter concerning eligibility:

Quote:
Candidates are expected to be active on the CSM forums and participate in the discussion of topics.


The reason I post this is because I believe there is now an elected member who doesn't come even close fulfilling this requirement.

Greene Lee - she has a total of THREE (3) posts on the CSM forum, all in her candidacy thread. Rest few posts are in the character bazaar.

Why I take an issue with this? Because communication with the whole playerbase is obviously the single most important task of a CSM member. The requirement for active participation in discussion should be enforced.

DISCLAIMER: I have no political agenda, I have no stake in 0.0 politics. I have an issue with a community representative who has never even communicated with the community.

the CSM forums are a private forum section that the CSM uses to communicate with CCP, you are talking about Jita Park.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#11 - 2012-03-28 08:01:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Roime
Florestan Bronstein wrote:

the CSM forums are a private forum section that the CSM uses to communicate with CCP, you are talking about Jita Park.


The candidates don't even have access to those private forum sections. We are talking about eligibility for candidacy now.

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Greene Lee
Siberian Alpha Fleet
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2012-03-28 09:57:25 UTC
CSM is not a clown dancing for your pleasure in the circus. It is work. I'm working with ppl who elected me, with guys who have ideas how to improve eve and i'm always open for them. They know how to reach me. If you need some public striptease or forum drama, you have voted for the wrong person.
fgft Athonille
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-03-28 10:02:23 UTC
this place is a sewer.

if i ever voted i would pick the guy who does more important things with his time then slum around in the sewer
Ivana Twinkle
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-03-28 10:03:30 UTC
infact CSM should be based on postcount, not votes.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#15 - 2012-03-28 10:05:15 UTC
Nedes Betternaem wrote:
Kehro Urgus wrote:
If I see one more Patrick Swayze reference I... I... will... hold my breath until I pass out.Oops

I bet Patrick Swayze could hold his breath longer than you before he passed out.


Yeah dead people tend to win that contest hands down.
Ivana Twinkle
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-03-28 10:05:50 UTC
And who is to say the csm member in question is not going to post there? Also (s)he has not ben instated yet. So who is to say that posting wont commence after csm7 has launched.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#17 - 2012-03-28 10:07:31 UTC
Ivana Twinkle wrote:
And who is to say the csm member in question is not going to post there? Also (s)he has not ben instated yet. So who is to say that posting wont commence after csm7 has launched.


Keep in mind I could care less so I'm not defending the OP... But they meant that the eligibility requirements for running in the first place state that one must be an active member of the forums.

No idea if thats true or not since I've never read them.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#18 - 2012-03-28 10:15:22 UTC
Greene Lee wrote:
CSM is not a clown dancing for your pleasure in the circus. It is work. I'm working with ppl who elected me, with guys who have ideas how to improve eve and i'm always open for them. They know how to reach me. If you need some public striptease or forum drama, you have voted for the wrong person.


Well that is very good first post, sweetie.

Just for the record, who you are or what you do doesn't interest me, your person or opinions are irrelevant.

This discussion is about the fact that CCP has set expectations for candidate eligibility, which you do not meet.

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Marian Devers
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
#19 - 2012-03-28 10:46:13 UTC
Roime wrote:
Just for the record, who you are or what you do doesn't interest me, your person or opinions are irrelevant.

This discussion is about the fact that CCP has set expectations for candidate eligibility, which you do not meet.



She did meet them. She participated in her own CSM Candidate Thread, and answered all relevant questions that were asked of her. So yes, she was both active and participated in the discussion.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#20 - 2012-03-28 10:47:46 UTC
Ok.

Cool!

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