Ships & Modules

CCP is terrible.

So Titans are the mega weapon and not designed according to the paper-stone-scissor principle.

Don't **** up this thread with your rubbish, it's the closest we have gotten to the Devs actually acknowledging what the real problem is.

What I'm Down has listed would be one of the single greatest improvements to the game in a long time. CCP made numerous references at fanfest about restructuring ships and modules to shake up the games stale fittings/fleet compositions, however this change would do a far greater job at this than any of the gimmick modules suggested. At the same time fixing the crux of the issue with not only Titans but several other ships and weapon systems.

introduce bump damage with damage as a function of mass, blobing, titan blobing, cap blobing, subcap blobin, all solved with one good instapop.

Also damage would need to exceed some sort of threshold so that normal accidental bump in highsec would not make every soul in jita cry...

I love you Greyscale ! Justice has been made !

I suddenly don't despise mittani that much...still make sure you perma ban him and all his accounts. He can always make a new subscription and have a brand new start !

Regarding the titans : If you wanna do something against titan blobs, just make them very expensive. The capital parts needed for titans to be ridiculously high therefore you'll need to think twice or more if you get them into the field.

Love you CCP, I will keep my 12 accounts ^^
Death to all subcaps ! HAHAHA !

Apologies in advance for my noob carebear view, but removing turrets slots entirely and having launcher slots instead sounds like the only sane "quick fix".
Who knows, leads maybe to a stealth boost for auto-targeting cruise missiles? Bet the server would just love that, eh?

But it´s not enough, Titans should be epic. The Doomsday boosting others mentioned sounds good. It should be the only "turret" a Titan uses.
Though the truly epic way of a Titan defending herself from the (*coughGOON)riff-raff is using her own riff-raff.

Bring back the Clone Vat Bay!
(No T2 version? Wonder why.)
But make the clones generated in there FREE. Every Titan with her own (somewhat endless) stream of Assault Frig/Destroyer/Bomber wings.
Sounds epic to me.

Quote from your own WIKI as a quick reminder:

Ahahaha +1 !!!

"WUUT ?? WTF ZOMFG F*** THAT !!!" Did I quote mittani good enough? I heard repeatedly these things at the meeting.

Now I want fighters, fighter bombers and all kind of drones on mah titan. I wanna spill teh enemies' blood !

Also even more important, can CCP hire someone competent as a Game designer instead of devs who are not playing the game, and doesnt have a clue how the game works.

TIA

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Call me a lier but:
- Clone Vat Bay costs nothing (1 Liquid Ozone for 3 MIn of operation)
- Clone Vat Bay can store up to 75 Clones with max skills
- Installation of a clone costs 100k ISK which well is nothing

I dont see your point there....

But to contribute to the discussion here:

The problem here is that Titan is somewhat considered endgame. It is not only alliances who build them and magically donate them to their members but some of us worked months and months to get one. Therefore its considered a slap in the face for those players.

I think that the Titan Role as such is totally outdated since there are hundreds of them if planed once for only tens of them. Its logical that with time and the fact that there is no big Sink for ISK in game then Titans if it comes to game content.

Changing Turret behavior will not cure the problem just the symptoms even if a good solution is found, there will always just be another practical use for this ship.

Behavior in group should be adapted.

Disallow Jump in of Titans / Supers on a Cynosural to like 1 Titan per 5 Minute / System. Changing this way projection to 12 Titans per hour and each Titan deployed must be chosen very carefully.

Attacking forces can easily outrun such a fleet by changing system. If its about just fighting.

If it comes to Sov Warfare, an attacking force can easily switch to alternative target. Causing the defender to split up forces.

Force projection will be ultimately decided on a strategic level, the bigger an alliance gets the more it will be easy to distribute enough forces, but the bigger the territory gets the harder it will be to defend it.

There will be stranded Titans on daily bases, and hard decision on a strategical level taken daily.

Noob: "SOS: Titan tackled in M-O, need assistance!"
Grand - Admiral: "No Sir, cant assist main fleet engaged in System BKG, Super Capital assistance low in system, die quietly !"

As a member of NCdot I second this notion.

Clone Vat Bay is horribly broken or well absolutely worthless, due to following Problems:

- makes you immoblie (no warp, move, jump)
- has a duration of 3 mins and needs to be activated
- installation process is horribly complicated (needs pilot to invite "customer")
- costs something
- Usage is a oneway process, because it works only to jump to it not from it, therefor the clones in there have no imps unless carried with the titan. Horrible work if 75 dudes need there specific imps (Warfare imps, Hardwirings, ....)
- Module needs to be active to jump to titan
- You pop out of the titan around it, you have to board your ship and put in your imps before you can start the engagement.


All this makes this module only useful for Interdictor pilots or similar roles but in a very specific case....