Missions & Complexes

K-space or W-space? I'll assume K-space since you asked about DEDs.
1. K-space is definitely not same constellation. Before people used to say same region, but as of late common consensus seems to be in same security (high/low/null) + rat faction. So if a new Gurista 3/10 spawns it will be in any highsec Gurista system.
2. Some people say yes, some say no
3. I'm pretty sure signatures and anoms aren't linked spawn wise.
4. I don't see why not?

The only people that know this for sure are the developers, and they obviously want to keep this secret as one of the last few great secrets of exploration. AFAIK the only K-space cosmic signatures with "special" spawns are the COSMOS/epic arc ones, and Ladar sites because they're tied to specific regions.

Edit:
I've had on very rare occasions scanned system A, scanned system B, ran a site, rescanned system B, then A, and found the same site suddenly spawned in system A. Of course, there's 78 other systems in the region, so that does really mean anything.

Pondering: since people run all the DEDs and Radars, if they respawned to a random new type, they'd eventually respawn as Gravimetrics and be ignored. But since there's always DEDs/Radars/etc available in a region, I think we can assume that either they respawn to the same type, or there's at least some sort of weighting going on to maintain a minimum amount of each type.

Lastly, I still refuse to run Drone sites just in case they might respawn as pirate sites.

It seems like it doesn't matter how many signatures are "sitting" in the particular system for the chances of new spawn.

hi sec back water system Example

I mostly agree with the some people's opinion that system "B" would be within certain range and appropriate sec stat for specific type of signatures. You may, notice for example, that in low-sec systems, in closer proximity to 0.0 6/10 appear a bit more often then in far away backwater low sec systems.

May be it is just my filling, and ofc, pure speculation.

Thanks guys. Is it better, in your opinion to roam and search for sites or wait in my backwater home for the sites to spawn?



So if im looking for 4/10 complexes i might have better luck in low-sec border systems?

Ok, i think ill just roam the spacelanes for now and see what pops up

Thanks guys

Here's another real noob question about sites despawning.

If I find gravimetric, magnometric, or ladar sites in high sec systems will it speed up the despawning process if I track them down and then visit them (but not kill the rats or mine the rocks or gas - just visit the site)? Does that start some sort of despawn timer? Or is the timer just running for a couple days and the site will only despawn early if it is completed?

My current method is to just ignore them after I discover what they are and keep looking for DED and radar sites.

Thanks.

I'm told that, one someone initiates a warp to these or any cosmic signature, it starts a hidden 3 (?) day timer, and after that timer expires, they'll naturally despawn.



Yeah, a bunch of us on the exploration channel were going to do just that, but we never got around to it :( It shouldn't be too hard, just choose a small region like Bleak Lands or Molden Heath, use DSPs just to get a list of all the signature IDs , then run one site, and rescan all the systems to find the new ID and see if it's the same site.

We did some research within Black Rise region. It has only 10 hi sec systems in one connected cluster.. I just was told many times that sig will respawn in the same region, so we decided to check it out. Our goal was not to find any pattern in respawn mechanics in terms which system "B" will be.

We didn't make full and complete monitoring of whole region, including lo-sec but only hi sec part of it.

The first site was Guristas Watch. Following common believe that sigs respawn in the same region, it suppose to respawn in the same 10 system cluster. But it didn't. Neither any other signature type of any strength or type in this 10 systems. Since it exists only in hi sec, it can't respawn in low sec, unless something low specific sec with appropriate sig strenght. The same logic applied for all radars and magneto sites.

The GSO respawned in the same region, just 2 jumps away and once got completed gone some were too.

But where? still in hi sec, just in different region? Probably. With the same sig strength, but different type, for example, radar? entirely possible, due some people experience.

What about low sec of the same region? hm... Interesting, but GSO in low sec has twice higher signature strength compare to hi sec GSO. So, if GSO respawn in low sec, then it should be signature with different strength.

We didn't combat wide research, since it was NOT our intention in the first place. But with dozen well organized people it can be done.

Before any further conclusions and tests, two questions should have sure answers: if the site with particular signature completed, will the respawn be the same strength and can signature migrate between hi/low/null sec?

In case signature always keeps it's strength, is it possible it changes type?

Funny enough, "exploration" means you discover something new, unpredictable and exiting.
But "respawn mechanics" is probably the only thing still unexplored yet.

Explorers, unite!

I'll start by saying I do not think sites respawn as different sites (a GSO respawning as a radar or something). This would result in no sites in high sec eventually, except for ladars/gravs.

Now, Black Rise was the region I initially started to question the "they respawn in the same region" theory. Being the clever SOB I am, I figured I could go there and just farm GSO/Watch all day if it was true. However, as you noted, it quickly became apparent that this was not the case.

I next noticed it in the Forge right after the Gurista DED 5/10 came out. I ran I think 6 of them in the region (one character in each low sec pipe in the force scanning with DSP) before it was "depleted" as in no more DED 6/10 respawns in the region. It had moved to another Caldari region.

I am quite convinced that sites are not tied to regions, but instead to general security (high/low/null) and faction.

You do raise an interesting point on the DED 4/10. Does the game see it as 2 separate sites? One for high one for low? This is the direction I would lean as it would be simpler (seeing as they have different sig strengths bound to one another).

I don't personally think this is the case however, as if it were, eventually the plethora of high sec explorers would run it enough to where it would spawn in back water systems in low sec and we'dd devoid of it in high sec until it was ran and respawned back into high. This is of course not very good data as it could simply be luck, but its the closest bet. The only way to be sure would be to scour either high or low of all of a factions regions until we could not find it at all, which could prove quite difficult.

I have a feeling sites that cross boundaries, like the 4/10 are classified in the database as two separate items. It would be the simpler solution and would explain the different sign strengths.

In regards to the 5/10, I did not check other regions. That would be a much larger undertaking and would need a large group of organized explorers.

While id help with a sisi test, I'd personally prefer to see results from tranquility.