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Ender Karazaki
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2901 - 2012-03-28 05:18:05 UTC
EVE, CCP and it's community are being torn to shreds in all the game websites. We are all officially sociopaths and scumbags.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#2902 - 2012-03-28 05:18:09 UTC
michaelthered wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Ashen Molotov wrote:
Derrick Munroe wrote:
The EULA everybody seems to enjoy referencing wrote:
You may encounter and converse with people who are rude, offensive, belligerent, and who may use indecent, obscene, and/or threatening or harassing language while playing the Game. You may report any instances of such behavior to CCP. CCP will investigate and take such measures as CCP, in its sole judgment, determines are reasonable under the circumstances.


See that up there? Up to CCP to decide. And it appears they've let the CSM argue it out. Give it a few days, it's not in any of your hands, sorry~


True enough but what happened here was way larger then just some in game harrment. Anyone should be able to understand that.

I actually like Goon and think it's insanely funny how they pretty much own EvE. To this point though it's been b/c of in game stuff. What this guy did though was completely and whole heartedly over the line. He EVEN ADMITS THIS HIMSELF !

For CCP to not remove him would just be unthinkable. What kind of message does that send?

Maybe I will go to Fanfest next year and harress the **** out of everyone I see, as well as share their personal information and try to talk others into doing this until the person finally just kills themself. There is absolutely no way this can be defended by anyone with half a brain. You cannot tell me what he did was 100% ok. Therefore if what he did was not 100% ok then there HAS to be some consequences, period.


Except he didn't harass anyone, nor did he divulge any personal information about the man, nor did he kill himself...

Keeping it real.



people did email wis doing exactly what mittens told them to do. That's an inconvenient fact isn't it?


Is the fact that he's still alive another inconvenient fact? Blink

I'm surprised half of EVE hasn't EVE Mailed him by now.

Shall we assume that he has simply reported these folks so that they can be banned?

Was one of those Emails from the Mittani?

Can you provide us with a list of those names so that we can name and shame them?

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RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2903 - 2012-03-28 05:18:38 UTC
Ashen Molotov wrote:
No they are correct I was wrong he did NOT give out the guys real name. For that I am completely wrong.

It still does not justify what he did. Even the man himself has stated what he did was completely wrong yet these people seem to think it's still ok.



They are trying to change opinion so that mittens can stay on the CSM.

But this is far bigger then their silly meta game crap.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Derrick Munroe
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2904 - 2012-03-28 05:18:47 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Derrick Munroe wrote:


You're missing key info then bro. He didn't give out the guy's real name, just the in-game name of one of the guy's 23 characters.


Yet egged people on to harass him into killing himself for real......yeah you keep leaving that part out conveniently.


I fail to see how it's relevant to the conversation when I'm only pointing out that The Mittani did not, in fact, share personal information. I don't pretend to deny what Mittani said, you can go watch the video and see for yourself. But he didn't give the guy's real name and he didn't encourage real-life harassment. And as Andski pointed out, he's got 23 accounts, it's not too hard to block messages on one of them.

What's it like, not owning any tech moons?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2905 - 2012-03-28 05:19:08 UTC
michaelthered wrote:
i didn't know wis at the time he wrote that email so i'm not going to comment. He is not "emotionally unstable" now but he is dealing with ALOT of personal issues. Maybe at the time when he was closer to the end of his marriage he was more unstable I don't know...moreover it doesn't matter. This was never about how close wis is or was to actually committing suicide, it wouldn't matter if Wis had never mentioned being suicidal....how do you not fkcing get that?



this is coming from the tough guy that talks about ambushing goons at fanfest and brawling in bars

you're clearly the better man ;p

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
michaelthered
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2906 - 2012-03-28 05:19:20 UTC
Derrick Munroe wrote:
michaelthered wrote:


people did email wis doing exactly what mittens told them to do. That's an inconvenient fact isn't it?


Cool. Evidence?



i don't have the emails dude. It wasn't that many from what i gathered but Wis isn't talking about this anymore as per probably instructions to do so.....i'll let you figure out who's telling him not to talk anymore.
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2907 - 2012-03-28 05:19:52 UTC
michaelthered wrote:
Andski wrote:
michaelthered wrote:
dude that was never in question. The problem I and a "few" other people are having is that people, urself included it seems, think this is no big deal. I'd think this was bullshit even if i didn't know Wis. For two or three days we heard that Wis got brought up at fanfest by the goons and we had a good laugh over it cause Wis knew what it was about, when they ganked him.....so we were eager to see the video, we knew the goons were going to mock him...he knew it. Nobody had any idea that this little piece of sheise was actually asking people to email wis and tell him to "kill himself". That was completely out of left field. I was stunned when i saw the cavalier nature of that video cause Wis had done nothing to these people except be the victim of their ganking.


so you're confirming that Wis is an emotionally unstable guy on the brink of suicide?

or are you confirming that this is a non-event that some idiots decided to blog about


i didn't know wis at the time he wrote that email so i'm not going to comment. He is not "emotionally unstable" now but he is dealing with ALOT of personal issues. Maybe at the time when he was closer to the end of his marriage he was more unstable I don't know...moreover it doesn't matter. This was never about how close wis is or was to actually committing suicide, it wouldn't matter if Wis had never mentioned being suicidal....how do you not fkcing get that?


because it would matter if he never mentioned being suicidal, you damned nutter
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2908 - 2012-03-28 05:19:55 UTC
Ender Karazaki wrote:
EVE, CCP and it's community are being torn to shreds in all the game websites. We are all officially sociopaths and scumbags.



Yup goons have prob now ruined the game. You tell someone you play eve now they will think you are a Goon by default.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
L00B
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2909 - 2012-03-28 05:20:15 UTC  |  Edited by: L00B
Quote:



You supporters of this can kiss his ass all you want to but all it's doing is making you look like kool aid drinkers waiting for him to pass you the drink that will magicaly take you home to be with the Aliens in the sky.



Actually, the Heaven's Gate cult drank phenobarbital and vodka.... it was the Jonestown mass suicide that drank koolaid! :eng101:
Kallynda Nai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2910 - 2012-03-28 05:20:31 UTC
michaelthered wrote:
Derrick Munroe wrote:
michaelthered wrote:


people did email wis doing exactly what mittens told them to do. That's an inconvenient fact isn't it?


Cool. Evidence?



i don't have the emails dude. It wasn't that many from what i gathered but Wis isn't talking about this anymore as per probably instructions to do so.....i'll let you figure out who's telling him not to talk anymore.


He was just on eve radio talking about it barely two hours ago. What other lies would you like to concoct in this thread?
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2911 - 2012-03-28 05:20:51 UTC
michaelthered wrote:
This was never about how close wis is or was to actually committing suicide, it wouldn't matter if Wis had never mentioned being suicidal....how do you not fkcing get that?


Actually it really, really does matter. Had he not bleated and whined about his personal life after getting scammed, his post-scammed evemails probably wouldn't even have been saved. They definitely wouldn't have been used in a presentation about people reacting ridiculously to being scammed/killed/whatever.

We know literally NOTHING about this guy that he didn't volunteer to us, nor do we even care to.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#2912 - 2012-03-28 05:20:56 UTC
michaelthered wrote:
Andski wrote:
michaelthered wrote:
dude that was never in question. The problem I and a "few" other people are having is that people, urself included it seems, think this is no big deal. I'd think this was bullshit even if i didn't know Wis. For two or three days we heard that Wis got brought up at fanfest by the goons and we had a good laugh over it cause Wis knew what it was about, when they ganked him.....so we were eager to see the video, we knew the goons were going to mock him...he knew it. Nobody had any idea that this little piece of sheise was actually asking people to email wis and tell him to "kill himself". That was completely out of left field. I was stunned when i saw the cavalier nature of that video cause Wis had done nothing to these people except be the victim of their ganking.


so you're confirming that Wis is an emotionally unstable guy on the brink of suicide?

or are you confirming that this is a non-event that some idiots decided to blog about


i didn't know wis at the time he wrote that email so i'm not going to comment. He is not "emotionally unstable" now but he is dealing with ALOT of personal issues. Maybe at the time when he was closer to the end of his marriage he was more unstable I don't know...moreover it doesn't matter. This was never about how close wis is or was to actually committing suicide, it wouldn't matter if Wis had never mentioned being suicidal....how do you not fkcing get that?



Furthermore...
http://i.imgur.com/I0Ca2.gif

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Sidus Sarmiang
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2913 - 2012-03-28 05:21:16 UTC
Ashen Molotov wrote:
No they are correct I was wrong he did NOT give out the guys real name. For that I am completely wrong.

It still does not justify what he did. Even the man himself has stated what he did was completely wrong yet these people seem to think it's still ok.



No, what we think is that Mittani spoke to the guy, sent him 10 billion isk, and everything I've heard including The Wis's own words make it sound like it's a non-issue between them. Yet people who are completely uninvolved are frothing and raging on the forums about it and absolutely nothing The Mittani, me, or any goon can do will appease them, even though they weren't personally injured, so at this point we lose nothing and gain everything (entertainment) by mocking you idiots.
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2914 - 2012-03-28 05:22:08 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Ender Karazaki wrote:
EVE, CCP and it's community are being torn to shreds in all the game websites. We are all officially sociopaths and scumbags.



Yup goons have prob now ruined the game. You tell someone you play eve now they will think you are a Goon by default.


you're p. stupid


if you're trolling then you're stupid and a troll
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2915 - 2012-03-28 05:22:10 UTC
Ender Karazaki wrote:
EVE, CCP and it's community are being torn to shreds in all the game websites. We are all officially sociopaths and scumbags.


yeah this game is about ponies and being nice to everyone

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Shodar Kel
Desi Beanz
Pandemic Horde
#2916 - 2012-03-28 05:22:43 UTC
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#2917 - 2012-03-28 05:22:49 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Ender Karazaki wrote:
EVE, CCP and it's community are being torn to shreds in all the game websites. We are all officially sociopaths and scumbags.



Yup goons have prob now ruined the game. You tell someone you play eve now they will think you are a Goon by default.


Luckily it is mostly Goons who bring new people into this game anyway, either directly or indirectly. So, vOv.

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Alexia Canada
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2918 - 2012-03-28 05:23:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexia Canada
Andski wrote:
Ender Karazaki wrote:
EVE, CCP and it's community are being torn to shreds in all the game websites. We are all officially sociopaths and scumbags.


yeah this game is about ponies and being nice to everyone


Don't let pony squad hear you say that with that tone young man. (fuck ponies)
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2919 - 2012-03-28 05:23:56 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvo08_uYjHI&t=54m0s

Please watch this, it starts right before the leader of Dirt Nap Squad physically assaults The Mittani in real life.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#2920 - 2012-03-28 05:23:59 UTC
Shodar Kel wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/BR83Z.png


objection. Leading the witness.

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