EVE General Discussion

Yes.

Yes.

And to those that say "10k wasted votes". 10k accounts is still *less than* 3% of the total Eve subscriber base. The other 97% of the subscriber base don't give a **** what a measely 3% want.

yk

YES

Maybe.

What he did was bad
He was drunk on his ass and knew he would be on internet TV - which was irresponsible
He saw what he did when was sober enough to see the replay and he says it was a very bad thing he did

(many apparently do not have faith in his ability to judge his own actions as they argue with him that what he did was not alllll that bad, so either they don't have faith in his judgment or they know more about whether he will just say anything necessary to cover his ass. Me, I'm taking him at his word and he said he did a bad thing. His followers who know him better can doubt his ability to be sincere, but I will wait to see his actions.)

He paid a sort of retribution to the victim in the form of ISK, but some may call it a bribe or a payoff to let it pass - I'm still out on that one

He said what he did crossed the line and he will resign - so I don't understand why this thread is running

If he fails to keep his word, his CSM word, that will be the most damaging thing he can do for his credibility, his CSM credibility. I would expect his RP character to tell everyone to **** off, but he did not do this while RPing and from his own apology he indicates he can compartmentalize his RP self from his CSM self.

OK - we have heard from his sober self on the slides (I've seen the whole tape and reviewed the important parts more times.)
We have heard from his drunken self which slipped from being his CSM/reality self to his RP/fantasy self
We have heard from his hangover self when he offered his apology.

Now, I wait to see who will show up to make the next decision.

But to my mind, failing to keep one's word issued from a real world leadership position (whether irresponsibily drunk, sober or judgment impaired headachy hungover) completely ends any future trust and move the person into a not suitable for purpose category.

Mittani - it is your move, unless CCP takes it for you, since the neither the ball or the court belong to you, anyway. YOU have placed yourself in a difficult position, by your own actions, from which you can only emerge totally damaged as one who cannot keep his word for personally selfish reasons, or one who can begin to restore himself from what was self described as having made a bad mistake.

Mu

You all need to relax.
Let CCP deal with it.

PS.

A monk once asked master Chao-chou, "Does a dog have Buddha-nature or not?"
Chao-chou said, "Mu"

AT9 final springs to mind.

Yes and ban from CSM for life

The offense goes beyond his incitement of others to grief a potentially suicidal player.

His entire presentation from start to finish was nothing but a bullying public humiliation of all EVE players newer, weaker, more naive, less knowledgeable, less literate, less sophisticated and "cool," yes, even more Christian than himself, the panel, and the members of the present and viewing audience invited to join in the smug superior laughter of every more powerful "in" group at those they cast "beyond the pale."

It was no accident. No product of a drunken moment of indiscretion. It was planned, it was executed, and it was disgraceful.

Say what you want about EVE being a "hard" PvP game, The Mittani's behavior is nothing any parent would wish to see their child emulate. In an adult, in an elected representative of a player community, one which decidedly includes all those upon whom The Mittani labored to cascade contempt, such behavior is near unforgivable. It is certainly not commensurate with his any longer speaking or in any way standing for that full community's interests. Like it or not, The Mittani shamed us all as adults who choose to play EVE Online.

There is a poison in EVE, a poison which increasingly foments conflict not between peers, null sec empire against null sec empire, small corp against small corp, but which instead incites and celebrates the strong preying up the weak, the veteran upon the noob, the prepared predator against the defenseless prey, not for in game triumph or advantage but to reach beyond the game, beyond the pixels, to "harvest tears" and impotent anger from real persons.

The Mittani has made himself, not inadvertently but deliberately, the chief agent of this poison and its spread. He must go. EVE's culture is a violent, no-holds-barred PvP culture on many levels, and it should remain so, but it must step back from this ugly cesspool into which The Mittani and his ilk have been leading it.

Mittani Resignation. I Vote Yes, asap.

I say Mittens Stays ;)