EVE General Discussion

You want ordinarily uncontrollable Drone AI to all of a sudden be able to actually target things accurately and show signs of intelligence? Far too immersion breaking for me. I think they should have a 50% chance to attack the wrong team, 30% chance to just shoot themselves or crash into buildings and 20% chance to aim in the general direction of the opposing force. Make them more ( Drone like IMO )

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What a lot of crap - what's the point of our ships having shields and armour if all the damage our guns can do is blow up a couple of tanks and soldiers. Even killing a single building is crap. The tanks on the ground should be able to do that.

Somewhere I'm sure there are nerd figures for the giga joules of damage given off by Eve's starship weapons. That kind of crap damage from an Abaddon should just lightly singe the paint on a Velator. Wasting a couple of soldiers and their rides just seems stoopid.

Maybe not to PS players.

The tank, the remote repairers, all the buildings - in fact the surrounding area for miles around ought to be turned to glass after a volley from an Abaddon - you silly person

or should i say oght and lose the U seeing as Eve is going all yank.

I thought about that for fluff earlier. There is an effect from too much energy. By all rights, a bombardment cannon cannot have the same energy behind it as the spacial shots. Projectile or otherwize. If you shot at the atmosphere with a projectile or hybrid, the sheer physics of colliding with the atmosphere would destroy the shot before hitting ground. We can only assume that the laser energy would just disrupt everything too. They sorta touch on it in Templar One. So the guns for bombardment are not doing damage equal to that which hit our ships, but that is just so the shots reach ground.

Need to keep it contained, easier to just use directed energy than try to spill off mass and regen. Atmosphere also will transmit energy. If you have a big air bubble around you, still will be hit by the energy disappation. After all, the damage from missiles (for my sci fi explaination) isn't from the impact, but proximity explosion and hit by the energy wave. Is why sig size and velocity affect damage. Smaller ship, less of the detonation energy is transmitted to the ship. Atmosphere is alot thicker, so more room to disperse. Fire 1600mm shells, might only end up with some burst ear drums and broken glass at the surface. Not perfect, but is all I got right now. Hopefully CCP can come up with more. Planetary shieldings to penetrate?

We do less dmg because of concord...can't have capsulers glassing planets.


we fire nuclear artiallry at each other larger than any artillary ever fired.

Excellent Sci-Fi answer -- can live with that. However - just imagine Goons rampaging around bombarding planets everywhere in nullsec fur tha lulzs - they'd love it! - but - there's no concord in out there: please give us a good Eve reason why Concord should have mechanics in place for this!

Or does this really really matter? = probably not.

I'm sorry if this was answered earlier, but by summer (with all those beta guys planetside), can we EvE folk be looking at bombarding planets in Inferno?

I heard something along the lines of it being for FW at start... but I'd love to try my hand in my little Seyllin, what with two Temperate planets and all.

Just some ideas on how I think it should be played out


Obv it cant be too OP, a game should be WINNABLE if other team has orbital support but still worth the effort of doing it. Could simply make it so only 1 strike every few minutes. Plenty of other FPS's have airstrikes n such that make it easier to win but by no means insta-win.

I'm thinking obv if indoors you cant strike (but destructable environments would be amazing omg) so a team under heavy strike fire could move indoors (so strikes as a means of limiting opposing dudes movements)

I'd like ships to be immobile for SOME amount of time, seems like so obvious I assume its already a feature. If orbitally strikin you're very vulnerable to attack. Cant move but could still use mods. not TOO long though, maybe few minutes to complete a strike. definitely not near 10 or no ones gonna risk it just for ONE boom. Cause ya know......droppin a cynos painful even in an al

Striking UP from planet (cant remember term) needs seriously balancing, one shotting a dread is def OP, cap ships take at least few shots so pilot can semi-tank (but progressively does more dmg so he cant possibly perma tank), so you need ground/space support to pin him there n finish him. But even one shotting a BS seems harsh. So maybe a warning system? WARNING PLANETARY DEFENSES ACTIVE IN 30 29 28 etc. If DUST bunnies are given an easy I-WIN button to pwn pod Pilots theres gonna be some ssrly pissed off pilots

TL:DR Dont one shot caps, give warning system so subcaps can GTFO (assuming not scrammed

This way if under strike they go after Planetery defense thingy, bring it online and either pop or scare off dude. Other guys want support back gotta go turn OFF defenses. Teamwork, fun and everyone has an chance


Ohhh and DUST bunnies giving warp in location to get in place would be cool, that way to pop a striker you needa probe him out. That code DUSTies give you could work as warp-in code aswell as strike

Also I know its impossible but I'd LOVE to SEE the dmg I do in EvE, like lil vid of the dudes I shoot (in real time I know all we can hope for is killmail) but say hour later you receive a vid of your shots, some games (like TF2) support replay function I dont know how hard that would be implement on a game this scale though. But yea Killmail at LEAST, you can even give vehicle/suit fittings and mods :


One last brainfart, if theres a ground-space building to strike why not a building that SHIELDS the area, maybe with enough shots it can break down, with help from DUST bunnies. Defenders have to protect the power generators while attackers gotta blow'em up/shutdown. If shield health gets too low defenders gotta bring more power back online. Once power runs out shields go down and some vital building (or enemy MCC) gets blown to poo poo by orbital strike. Or even 2 teams, 2 shields, limited bunch of neutral generators they fight over s

be a cool gamemode that NEEDS EvE/DUST interaction


Edit: as for discussion on glassing planets, that'd kinda destroy everything/one on it. ****** way to invade somewhere you want. You'd want precision shots, mercs aint gonna pay you to vaporize their team xD

You mean one planetary disaster isnt enough for them, but take out two more?

Thanks ccp for the awesome answer. More than I expected. I love how dust went as far as having the whole fiction for character respawn, and no magic items. My three peevs in FPS are spawn camping, magic items from air and map memorization. With the seeding universe talk, all three are gone from Dust, and is epic. More fic even more so.

So again, thanks a whole for the answer!


Here is another idea, missiles.

At current the bombardment apprears to be area effect for gunfire. What if missile bombardment was target guided, but much less area effect, depending on missiles? Atmo cruise missiles of course would be the nuke it from orbit, but a missile barrage so a person can put down a painted line, or follow a moving target as a missile stream comes in (thinking for example a rapid fire light missile launcher barrage from a drake)