EVE General Discussion

Thanks for admitting you don't understand the purpose of an Alliance Panel as opposed to the CSM Panel.

Since they wrote this:


http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM

I'll quote my qualifications and provide documentation of such as soon as Alex provides the same.

You are a goon aren't you, shouldn't you know you, be arguing for the Mittani and not against him?

Plain and simple, if CCP do not remove Mitani and all his accounts from game, the bad press will hit them harder than it is already.

I never liked Mitani, but this has always been related what he represents in game. Many of us have experienced Goon coms and know how much real hatred exists there. This has now crossed into RL and as far as I'm aware breaches CCP's onw rules on accepted behaviour to remain in game.

CCP, do the right thing, cut out the cancer that is Mitani and show you care about the game. If not, the stain from this affair will spread, until it is too late to do anything.

At the moment, it just looks like you are a bunch of **** heads who support this kind of behaviour. Many of us are confused as to why action has not been taken. The fact you hesitate in something so clear cut, speaks volumes.

My point was we shouldn't be completely paralyzed into inaction because someone might be upset enough at something we do to kill themselves. Should we remove non-consentual pvp from Eve in case it upsets someone? What about scams? What if someone builds their entire sense of self worth around a terrible idea they post in features and ideas (its a trick question, all F&I posts are terrible)? Should we not be allowed to criticize it because they might kill themselves?

Suicide is tragic and encouraging someone to kill themselves is also bad but in this case there was no suicide and if people keep sensationalizing things CCP will be forced by the public outcries of people who will never play Eve to make it a lesser game.

well if he resign then he can probably run for CSM again next year but if he gets kicked out, then its very likelly he will be excluded from CSM forever. There is a wizdom in jumping out of a sinking ship earlier.....

This post is so painfully self-referential that I just have to help you see it.

By your logic, the act of sending people out to shoot internet spaceships is bad and a terrible idea because one of them might be suicidal and therefore, if they do commit suicide over you shooting their ship, you and everyone who imitated the idea of shooting those ships is responsible for that suicide. You live in a rather terrifying world where everything is everyone's fault huh?

Again, you're joining a lynch mob to turn a victim-less crime into some sort of world-ending event. Your compatriots have admitted as much. The only person who could have a right to complain about this as having been victimized by these events DOES NOT CARE. Not one iota. So, because they don't want to carry a pointless cross you take it up yourself and set about to crucify the person you don't like.

You pubbie alt corp posters need to step back from this ASAP. You are only making it a 1000 times worse then it had to be.

You know the goons are right.. What the Mittani said did not break the EULA/TOS at all,, that is why CCP put out this statement

"I want to reassure you that CCP in no way condones the harassment of players, especially those who suffer from depression or suicidal thoughts, as we understand the possible consequences of such abhorrent behaviour," CCP public relations and social media specialist Ned Coker said.

"Our Terms of Service (TOS), which can be found here, mirror our company's stance on this matter.

"While the content of online interactions between players cannot realistically be gated within our game worlds, we do take very seriously accusations of such behaviour between our players.

"Furthermore, we have a suicide hotline protocol which has, in specific cases, made a difference for several unfortunately troubled players. We appreciate you voicing your concerns on this level, and CCP will be very vigilant in monitoring any behaviour directed towards the individual named in the presentation.

"We are undertaking a full internal review of this panel as well as the process used for vetting the panel's materials. Even though this panel was billed as unfiltered by CCP, we expect public presentations to be courteous and professional towards others."

Also he was at an Alliance Panel meeting that is why in he is referred to a CSM Council Member and CSM Chairman in the numerous news articles.

So with that we can quite clearly see that him being the CSM Chairman is not an issue.

I think my post will get buried fast in this avalanche but here are my 2 cents:

- Did i vote for him - No

- Did he screw up during alliance panel - Yes

- Does he need to somehow fix his mistakes - Yes

- Does he need to leave the chairman position - No


Frankly leaving CSM he would undermine the trust of thousand of people voting for him. Get him apologize to The Wis - in such a way so Wis would actually post on forums and says all is forgiven. But do not let him leave CSM.

While i do not condone many of his policies i am perfectly fine with him as chairman.

Most of the people yelling "Resign!" say it not because they think this would somehow make situation resolve itself. They yell it because it fits their own needs. They care about "The Wis" as much as general public does if not less. Because for them "The Wis" is not a person its a tool to get Mittani off the CSM.