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The Office of the Chairman: A ~chill place~ for constituent issues

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Pirokobo
Game.Theory
GameTheory
#761 - 2012-03-27 02:44:21 UTC
GetSirrus wrote:
Ah Leader, how fare you today?

Question, how would you feel about the removal of barges/exhumers from hi-sec as a carrot/stick incentive for Industrials to advance into low and null?


Why stop at removing the barges when you can remove the people in them?
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#762 - 2012-03-27 02:48:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Bride
So I was looking for the thread where you apologize for encouraging Fan Fest, and everyone watching the live stream of you being a drunken buffoon, to "make [a] guy kill himself". Could you link that please?

Thx.

Very Machiavellian btw. In a modern way. Smooth as a dropped bar of soap.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/

Daviclond
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#763 - 2012-03-27 02:52:34 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
So I was looking for the thread where you apologize for encouraging Fan Fest, and everyone watching the live stream of you being a drunken buffoon, to "make [a] guy kill himself". Could you link that please?

Thx.

Very Machiavellian btw. In a modern way. Smooth as a dropped bar of soap.


I'm not telling you, neener neener
Algia Knightstorm
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#764 - 2012-03-27 03:25:00 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
So I was looking for the thread where you apologize for encouraging Fan Fest, and everyone watching the live stream of you being a drunken buffoon, to "make [a] guy kill himself". Could you link that please?

Thx.

Very Machiavellian btw. In a modern way. Smooth as a dropped bar of soap.


Maybe some of you retards questioning him should have a read about what the guy Mittens called out had to say (loathe as I am to link an EN24 article, read up ******: http://www.evenews24.com/2012/03/27/failing-in-so-many-ways-the-mittani-%E2%80%93-hero/ )
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#765 - 2012-03-27 05:13:26 UTC
Algia Knightstorm wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
So I was looking for the thread where you apologize for encouraging Fan Fest, and everyone watching the live stream of you being a drunken buffoon, to "make [a] guy kill himself". Could you link that please?

Thx.

Very Machiavellian btw. In a modern way. Smooth as a dropped bar of soap.


Maybe some of you retards questioning him should have a read about what the guy Mittens called out had to say (loathe as I am to link an EN24 article, read up ******: http://www.evenews24.com/2012/03/27/failing-in-so-many-ways-the-mittani-%E2%80%93-hero/ )


Unfortunately for Alex, the condition of the victim isn't the issue. People have gotten banned just for saying "kill yourself" on forums to someone. Compare that to this. Whether they "actually killed themselves" or "were offended" wasn't asked then, and it won't be asked now because it's not relevant. When he resigns over it, you'll know what I mean.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/

Princess Bride
SharkNado
#766 - 2012-03-27 05:14:41 UTC
Daviclond wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
So I was looking for the thread where you apologize for encouraging Fan Fest, and everyone watching the live stream of you being a drunken buffoon, to "make [a] guy kill himself". Could you link that please?

Thx.

Very Machiavellian btw. In a modern way. Smooth as a dropped bar of soap.


I'm not telling you, neener neener


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=86980

That's the apology thread. Looks like it will be even more "popular" than this one.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/

Sephiroth Clone VII
Brothers of Tyr
Goonswarm Federation
#767 - 2012-03-27 05:16:41 UTC
The mittani ordered my ratting dominix to be awoxed, now I'm calling the suicide hotline.

So many numbers to dial,............ must do it before the urge to do Ernest Hemingway finish move takes over.


Princess Bride
SharkNado
#768 - 2012-03-27 05:21:20 UTC
Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:
The mittani ordered my ratting dominix to be awoxed, now I'm calling the suicide hotline.

So many numbers to dial,............ must do it before the urge to do Ernest Hemingway finish move takes over.




Oh, you're probably right. Best to keep mocking the issue. I'm sure this is nothing to worry about.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/

Hrald
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#769 - 2012-03-27 09:23:57 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:
The mittani ordered my ratting dominix to be awoxed, now I'm calling the suicide hotline.

So many numbers to dial,............ must do it before the urge to do Ernest Hemingway finish move takes over.




Oh, you're probably right. Best to keep mocking the issue. I'm sure this is nothing to worry about.

Read the logs where The Wis jokes about suicide as The Mittani would be legally liable in the United States? When even the guy on the butt end of the joke is making light of the situation, maybe you ought to rethink your position on it.

Christ.
Hrald
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#770 - 2012-03-27 09:28:57 UTC
I AM OFFENDED ON BEHALF OF SOMEONE WHO MAY BE OFFENDED BY YOUR REMARKS, I DEMAND AN APOLOGY FOR HURTING SOMEONE ELSE'S FEELINGS I LIVE VICARIOUSLY THROUGH
Zombatar
Vectors of Virtue
#771 - 2012-03-27 16:46:01 UTC
Please resign and reflect on your behavior.

I just watched your presentation and well... it was very hard to watch. Quite disturbing, no wonder the audience started to leave during your presentation...

I guess your tears are the best ones now. Everything comes back, you deserve this.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#772 - 2012-03-27 16:50:14 UTC
This is why we can't have nice things.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

SMT008
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#773 - 2012-03-27 18:26:13 UTC
Zombatar wrote:
Please resign and reflect on your behavior.


Don't push the man, you'll push me towards the cliff's edge, I might kill myself because of you.

Oh wait, you are a NPC alt, and no one ever gave any fscks about NPC alts opinions.
Tyke Orlieveit
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#774 - 2012-03-27 19:17:25 UTC
SMT008 wrote:
Zombatar wrote:
Please resign and reflect on your behavior.


Don't push the man, you'll push me towards the cliff's edge, I might kill myself because of you.

Oh wait, you are a NPC alt, and no one ever gave any fscks about NPC alts opinions.



I'm curious as to the exceptionally aggressive tone that GoonSwarm appear to be taking towards all this mess.

Mittens ****** up, Mittens is dealing with it.


Or is this one of these "Defending our own" things?

As for "..no one ever gave any fscks about NPC alts opinions.." - Quite frankly, just because you are posting with a specific 'toon doesn't make you any more or less of a player. As far as I'm concerned, you're as much of an NPC as every other ****** in this game, whether you're in a corp, a main, or forum alt, as long as you're posting what you really feel and not hiding behind an alt to troll.

Mittens has put himself into a position where he is deemed accountable to the playerbase in lesser or greater degrees as the chair of the CSM, which is why the vocal section are shooting Jita and crying for his head.

I personally couldn't care less if he quits or stays in. I've no real feeling either way about him in either a leadership or CSM role, as far as I'm concerned he's one of billions of sacks of carbon and water out there.

If he stays, he needs to do good by the playerbase as is his requirement as a member of the CSM and is what I would demand of any other serving CSM member.. and that's all I care about. If he's going to let this, or believes this will, impair his ability to serve in the CSM, then it's his choice.

Whist this whole debacle could have been timed better, and the fact it's made it to a few gaming blogs certainly makes it more than awkward for CCP and Mittens, I'm not entirely certain that him just quitting and leaving the CSM is the way to go, but at the same time, vocal people are crying out for a head or blood.

One thing I'm confident in, despite my neutral to "Don't give a crap" feelings on him is that Mittens will make the right decision for the future of the CSM, despite anything else.
Sephiroth Clone VII
Brothers of Tyr
Goonswarm Federation
#775 - 2012-03-27 20:01:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Sephiroth Clone VII
On a serious note, please don't resign. People are mainly making a issue about this because it is the Mittani. What did he do, make a bad joke while he was drunk? He basically made fun of a person who went crazy and was bringing personal life drama into the game.

Naming the person, and (jokingly) suggesting people should troll him to suicide is a bad joke. (and asking people to group spam a person is a bit of a violation) And he apologized.

Also I might add the scandal didn't go any farther, the person in question didn't commit suicide, or have much of a problem. Its a bunch of what if's and but's.

Other members of the CSM and people in CCP have gotten away with worse then mere bad jokes, anyone familiar with Luk and xuadeath being infamous RMTers or running empires that do it. Giving away BPO's and getting a slap on the wrist.

He said it at fanfest, with a ccp moderator, and all the speal, if anyone was serious about speaking out against, player or ccp, why didn't they do it then? This is some serious afterthought bull, this is like the michal richards scandel though not being a blaentyly racist insult just a obvious joke, no one cares when it is said, then a day latter, people start caring suddenly about a stupid joke made while drunk, they themselves likely said much worse while being drunk including reenactment of shitler speeches, and philosophy of race wars.
Sephiroth Clone VII
Brothers of Tyr
Goonswarm Federation
#776 - 2012-03-27 20:22:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Sephiroth Clone VII
Zombatar wrote:
Please resign and reflect on your behavior.

I just watched your presentation and well... it was very hard to watch. Quite disturbing, no wonder the audience started to leave during your presentation...

I guess your tears are the best ones now. Everything comes back, you deserve this.


I don't remember any of that mass walking out in disgust, it certainly didn't happen with the person who mocked and cohered people and degraded national identity by making them sing national anthems.

That's basically asking people to do stuff out of game to save stuff in game. Would you be ok, with that or people suggesting people video tape themselves doing sex acts, or nude pictures, so long as the goon's didn't do it.

Beyond eve university, most people talked about murdering alliances, humiliating, ransoming, and stealing. I find it the peak of bias and stupid to be full of hate for the mittani and just think everything else alliance panel people actually DID themselves in the game (not underlings or associates or friends, but they themselves) is peachy and dandy.

Furthermore, some speakers liberally talked about sex and seman, and were drinking. That's clearly not family friendly, and some serious moral police will likely get on that from the 'holylands'.

Now that the door for the moral police has been open, lets scrutinize everything in fanfest that might offend someone.
Della Monk
Monastery of Drakes
#777 - 2012-03-27 20:28:56 UTC
Please don't resign. Yeah, you ****** up. Everyone fucks up. Not everyone owns up.
Radax Glenn
Church of the Black Hand
#778 - 2012-03-27 20:43:15 UTC
Deplorable comments: Yes.

What I don’t like: I hadn’t heard of either party until yesterday. What is equally deplorable are players using this real life event, to settle old “in game” scores. The issue is serious or it’s not. We can’t have it both ways.

If this Mitanni is guilty of anything “in game”, it’s for ingesting too much of the Charlie Sheen “Tiger Blood”, while also “winning”.

Step down from CSM: Yes. After all, he volunteered to do so in his apology letter.

Ban the account: Maybe.
Powers Sa
#779 - 2012-03-27 22:18:37 UTC
I don't want to bug you on jabber boss, but here's something that a guy on the internet thought of to adjust the factional warfare stuff, so I made a post. I'm reposting it here so you can send it to the dev guys who actually own the product. I didn't get that french guy's name , but he might like this:

A random internet commenter had a good idea.

There is a better way for Factional Warfare to flip sov/ownership: Turn the current static Bunkers into Nullsec-style Outposts, dockable only by the owning Militia. No need to lock off already-existing stations. No getting alts involved. Allow this Outpost to give certain benefits to owning militia; tax-free production, free repairs and clones, etc. Systems turned by putting this Outpost into reinforced, and popping it 24 hours later. Give it sentry guns to impede enemy camping. Make it a tactically important little piece of floating property. If your stuff is inside when the system turns, fight for it back, or jump into a clone inside. Give it cloning facilities, with the new owner able to revoke clone contracts. Obviously you still have to get the iHUB down before you can flip sov.
This turns it into 16 hours instead of 8 hours.

This is a simple, easy way to tackle factional warfare.

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