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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#1981 - 2012-03-27 16:33:46 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
Joe Skellington wrote:
This has all descended into "Melodrama", maybe it's time to move on and let the healing process begin? Just saying.


When you want to heal from being stabbed in the back, the first step is to remove the knife. Once Alex has resigned from the CSM and left Eve in disgrace we can begin to heal.


Well that is rather melodramatic.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#1982 - 2012-03-27 16:33:55 UTC
Does anyone know if the guy with 23 accounts who was botting has been banned yet?

Rules are still rules.
Marduk Nibiru
Chaos Delivery Systems
#1983 - 2012-03-27 16:34:31 UTC
PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote:
Townsend Harris wrote:

A;so, would multiple hundred page + threads where numerous posters call the Mittani all sorts of name constitute cyber bullying?


True,lets petition these pubbies!


It's only bullying when OTHER people are doing it.
Kara Roideater
#1984 - 2012-03-27 16:35:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Kara Roideater
Karadion wrote:


You just answered your own question. Given the story of what Helicity did, it applied to the game.

Failing fast! So you now accept that if the actions 'apply' to the game then they are covered by the ToS. Let's see you jump through another hoop and tell us how the Mittani's actions, at eve fanfest, during the eve alliance panel, in a presentation about an eve alliance, aimed at an eve player, suggesting ingame actions do not apply to the game?
captain kikaz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1985 - 2012-03-27 16:36:12 UTC
good man
Saul Caris
#1986 - 2012-03-27 16:37:38 UTC
@ Mittani

I don't support you, and I didn't vote for you. But despite that, it's clear you've done a lot of good for the CSM. The apology is good enough - for what it's worth, I don't think you should resign.
Krell Kroenen
The Devil's Shadow
#1987 - 2012-03-27 16:38:01 UTC
Xython wrote:
Krell Kroenen wrote:
But didn't they stream it on their website though?


Technically no, they went through a 3rd party streaming video service. :)


*smirks*

Then I suppose by the letter he didn't breach it. I was just amused by the nit picking of the details and thought I would toss one in. My own opinion of the whole affair is somewhat mixed.

Time will tell what will happen so I will go back to watching and reading.
Kallynda Nai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1988 - 2012-03-27 16:39:10 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
This has been hanging over my head since Thursday when I stumbled away from the Alliance Panel with a vague sense that I had done something horrible. I didn't know the extent of how much of a shitheel I had been until today, when footage of the presentation went up. As many of you now know, I gave out the in-game character name of a Mackinaw miner if anyone had wanted to blow him up - except that I was so smashed that I didn't recall exactly what I said (as anyone who was there can tell you). When I came to the forums the other day and saw threads complaining about my behavior - not remembering what I'd said - I assumed that I was enduring the usual anti-Goonswarm trolls, and posted something like "deal with it~" in my usual "The Mittani" way.

Then I landed, and saw the article listing my actual quote.

Christ.

I feel absolutely ashamed of my behavior at the Alliance Panel. It's one thing to play a villain in an online roleplaying game - when I post on these forums or on twitter, I usually do so as 'The Mittani', and do my level best to convince everyone that I'm an unrepentant space villain, as that kind of facade provides an in-game advantage to me and my alliance. But I am not that character in real life, as anyone who has met me can attest. I went way, way, /way/ past the line on Thursday night by mocking the Mackinaw miner at a real-life event. I, as a person, am not the entity that I play in EVE; I am not actually a sociopath or a sadist, and I certainly don't want people to kill themselves in real life over an internet spaceship game, no matter what I may say or do within the game itself. CCP may say 'EVE is Real', but EVE is not real - and the line between the game and reality should not be overstepped.

I'm relieved to discover that the Mackinaw miner is doing fine and mining away, despite being blown up by Goonswarm in-game. He deserves, and he has, my heartfelt apologies - here in public as well as a private apology. There's no excuse for what I did - while some might try to use my inebriation as a mitigating factor, I put myself in that compromised mental state, and the guilt of that is entirely mine.

If I could go back in time and not have included the slide mentioning the miner, I would do so. While the Eve Online character "The Mittani" would never apologize for any sort of villany in game, I myself, as Alex Gianturco, feel utterly ashamed and sickened by my behavior.



I would suggest screenies of you biomassing


You are clearly using an in-game term as a metaphor for The Mittani committing suicide in real life. I call for a ban.
Doddy
Excidium.
#1989 - 2012-03-27 16:39:12 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Doddy wrote:
[quote=Jade Constantine][quote=Doddy]
But you are one of the worst posters eve has ever known and yet you have likes. Because the like system is designed so that more posts = more likes with no quality control. You may pretend its only goons that think your posting is bad but its the same on every forum, a jade post is a self agrandizing post made for some obscure ego reasons. If this forum had dislikes and goons were not allowed to use it you would still be negative. Instead you just jump on bandwagons to farm likes so you can pretend to be important.


Alternatively you could address the substance of the post I made earlier rather than desperately trying to wriggle off the subject. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1013943#post1013943

Go ahead and try to have a mature discussion rather than silly flame freakout. You might like it.


I haven't tried to wriggle out of anything jade, you posted about likes (you took it off topic not me), i responeded about the like system, you repsonded about the like system, i responded about the like system now you are deflecting.

As to the matter at hand far more damage has been done by people like you playing the matter to your own ends than the mittanis screw up. I am sure [redacted] just loves being the poster boy of jade online. I am sure being used to put another nail in the coffin of this game will help him get over his issues. Your post is all about Jade, anyone can see that, and screw anyone else.

Who are you to pass comments on Mittanis state of mind or what his wife should do? Accusing him of being delusional et all. You are just as bad as him but don't have the excuse of being drunk and making a flippant comment. You calculate. You use people. You probably drafted that post before posting it.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1990 - 2012-03-27 16:40:43 UTC
THE L0CK wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
Joe Skellington wrote:
This has all descended into "Melodrama", maybe it's time to move on and let the healing process begin? Just saying.


When you want to heal from being stabbed in the back, the first step is to remove the knife. Once Alex has resigned from the CSM and left Eve in disgrace we can begin to heal.


Well that is rather melodramatic.



That's Princess Bride for you. She heard Mittani was married and thus his sweet, sweet, Goonhammer wasn't "available for public use" and has been stalking him ever since.

Actually I think it's just another one of The Apostle's sockpuppets (since The Apostle was laughed off the stage), but who knows?
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#1991 - 2012-03-27 16:40:49 UTC
Kallynda Nai wrote:
Professor Alphane wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
This has been hanging over my head since Thursday when I stumbled away from the Alliance Panel with a vague sense that I had done something horrible. I didn't know the extent of how much of a shitheel I had been until today, when footage of the presentation went up. As many of you now know, I gave out the in-game character name of a Mackinaw miner if anyone had wanted to blow him up - except that I was so smashed that I didn't recall exactly what I said (as anyone who was there can tell you). When I came to the forums the other day and saw threads complaining about my behavior - not remembering what I'd said - I assumed that I was enduring the usual anti-Goonswarm trolls, and posted something like "deal with it~" in my usual "The Mittani" way.

Then I landed, and saw the article listing my actual quote.

Christ.

I feel absolutely ashamed of my behavior at the Alliance Panel. It's one thing to play a villain in an online roleplaying game - when I post on these forums or on twitter, I usually do so as 'The Mittani', and do my level best to convince everyone that I'm an unrepentant space villain, as that kind of facade provides an in-game advantage to me and my alliance. But I am not that character in real life, as anyone who has met me can attest. I went way, way, /way/ past the line on Thursday night by mocking the Mackinaw miner at a real-life event. I, as a person, am not the entity that I play in EVE; I am not actually a sociopath or a sadist, and I certainly don't want people to kill themselves in real life over an internet spaceship game, no matter what I may say or do within the game itself. CCP may say 'EVE is Real', but EVE is not real - and the line between the game and reality should not be overstepped.

I'm relieved to discover that the Mackinaw miner is doing fine and mining away, despite being blown up by Goonswarm in-game. He deserves, and he has, my heartfelt apologies - here in public as well as a private apology. There's no excuse for what I did - while some might try to use my inebriation as a mitigating factor, I put myself in that compromised mental state, and the guilt of that is entirely mine.

If I could go back in time and not have included the slide mentioning the miner, I would do so. While the Eve Online character "The Mittani" would never apologize for any sort of villany in game, I myself, as Alex Gianturco, feel utterly ashamed and sickened by my behavior.



I would suggest screenies of you biomassing


You are clearly using an in-game term as a metaphor for The Mittani committing suicide in real life. I call for a ban.


Edited for clarity thanks

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]
Murrior
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1992 - 2012-03-27 16:41:45 UTC
David Grogan wrote:
mittens should hop in a titan and let "the wis" and his corp pop the titan with the wis getting the final blow with his drones from his makinaw.

then everyone can move on and troll about something else.


Expected outcome. Random blows up his machinaw, steals his final blow, said guy cries about it and suicides again (yes again deal with it).
Marduk Nibiru
Chaos Delivery Systems
#1993 - 2012-03-27 16:45:48 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
Joe Skellington wrote:
This has all descended into "Melodrama", maybe it's time to move on and let the healing process begin? Just saying.


When you want to heal from being stabbed in the back, the first step is to remove the knife. Once Alex has resigned from the CSM and left Eve in disgrace we can begin to heal.


Wow!

There must be some serious jealousy rage brewing here.

Now not only must he quit CSM, he has to quite EvE all together!

That's just ******* mean.
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#1994 - 2012-03-27 16:47:23 UTC
Xython wrote:
THE L0CK wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
Joe Skellington wrote:
This has all descended into "Melodrama", maybe it's time to move on and let the healing process begin? Just saying.


When you want to heal from being stabbed in the back, the first step is to remove the knife. Once Alex has resigned from the CSM and left Eve in disgrace we can begin to heal.


Well that is rather melodramatic.



That's Princess Bride for you. She heard Mittani was married and thus his sweet, sweet, Goonhammer wasn't "available for public use" and has been stalking him ever since.

Actually I think it's just another one of The Apostle's sockpuppets (since The Apostle was laughed off the stage), but who knows?



Understandable though I don't know some of the names.

Speaking of which, how is Lady Harlot doing? (S)he was posting like a mo-fo yesterday to uphold her man's honor but as soon as this thread came out the posting just stopped. I hope (s)he's ok.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
Scarboro Seric
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1995 - 2012-03-27 16:48:09 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:


I would suggest screenies of you biomassing [The entity known as 'The Mittani']


The irony!
Leah Pendragon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1996 - 2012-03-27 16:48:46 UTC
Out of curiosity have the views of The Wiz been made public?

Can't be arsed scanning 110 pages of trollin to find something that could be quite important.
Doddy
Excidium.
#1997 - 2012-03-27 16:48:53 UTC
Kara Roideater wrote:

His message to the guys who are still on the forums claiming he didn't do anything wrong in the first place calls these revelatory media reports 'stupid media hit pieces'. That rather strongly suggests that reading them wasn't quite the humbling experience he claimed.
.


I see, you didn't read it. He said "stupid media hit pieces" not "stupid media peices". He is clearly referring to his presentation not the media reports (how would the reports be "media hit"?). But never mind the fact your evidence actually shows he thought he was stupid will be ignored and your misread version taken as gospel.
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#1998 - 2012-03-27 16:48:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Professor Alphane
Quote:
Speaking of which, how is Lady Harlot doing? (S)he was posting like a mo-fo yesterday to uphold her man's honor but as soon as this thread came out the posting just stopped. I hope (s)he's ok.


How would a Pubbie know P

Only jocking , hope she is well

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#1999 - 2012-03-27 16:49:13 UTC
You know what, though?

This whole thing puts a completely different spin on the phrase "suicide ganking"

Bazinga.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Zixie Draco
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2000 - 2012-03-27 16:50:03 UTC
CK'YEAH ...posting in a Mittens' apology to a miner thread

epic

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