EVE General Discussion

You may want to get the management of those institutions to get in touch with CCP Games. I'm pretty sure the problem can be addressed. (Actually I think you are just a troll.)

That and its against the EULA to share accounts....

It would help to build trust.

For recruiters it eliminated one unknown, for people looking to join a corp/alliance it helps to let them know what sort of people they are getting involved with.

Between alliances It could also be a source of drama, which is one of the main drivers of conflict.

I like the -10 sec status, but to make it hit the 0.0 rat bots, add a 5 min logout timer to all flagged accounts. They can log but their ship will stay in space for 5 mins allowing players to find and kill, or at the very least compile a list of names they can report.

I would normally say that rule violations should be a private matter between CCP and the offender. However, when it comes to botters in particular, I do see an advantage of having them marked.

Nobody uses a bot "by accident", and a mark would help the players keep an eye out, and report the bot again, should the behavior continue.

The mark shoud not be permanent. If the player don't get caught using bots for a year or so, it should be reset.

I believe that the only point that counts is that CEOs should have the right to know if they are recruiting bots into their corp. But on the other hand I also believe that the mark should go away with time. 6month for first offence and 12months for the second offence.. if it happens again they get permabanned anyway so it doesn't matter.

I skipped part of the thread, lot to read, but I don't think the in-game flagging of bots is a good idea.
Flagging people engaging in criminal activities in-game, in-character, makes sense and is fine, but adding in-game content about out of game issue doesn't. The fact that a bot flew the ship that harvested the ore and hauled it in a station only differs from a real person doing, by an out-of-character action (using the botting program) if CCP has the possibility of negating the market impact of the botting, and should be dealt with out of game by CCP against the owner of the account.
I'd like to remind you that public naming generally leads to more problems than letting authorities deal with issues, just look through most countries history.

While I totally understand the need to raise awareness of the botting issue so CCP reacts with botters-ganking, keeping an in-game tracker of previous guilt would hinder the possibility for the account holder to change and play the game. Why would they bother playing this toon if they'll get gank-raped at every gate or station? don't be ridiculous, there's enough occupations in Eve.

Side note: to make it incentive to those caught with their hands in the cookie jar, instead of a 3 times action, I think a formal agreement while they next log on, like "We caught you botting and suspended your account the past 2 weeks, if you get caught again, your account will be terminated", might be more appropriate, IMO.

I say do it for a few reasons.

First off, if someone breaks the law there are consequences. You molest a child here in the United States, you are flagged as such for the rest of your life and everywhere you live people know about it.

Second. Knowing if someone has broken the rules or whether that person may or may not be a bad mark on your corp is useful to corp leaders. If I was leading a corp and found out someone was botting or breaking any EULA or ToS they would be instantly booted.

Third. Not only would this be an added deterrent to botting (every little bit helps, no matter how small of a deterrent it is) but personally I think that if given such a flag it should be treated like being a pirate. You broke the rules. You are now flagged as a botter and as such a criminal. You can now be openly attacked in Empire without the safety net of CONCORD to protect you. This would allow CCP to instead of banning bot accounts, put the control in the players hands. If you don't like bots. Go bot hunting. Of course this would also require heavier moderation by CCP and not rely on reports from players to prevent abuse. The identification and flagging of bots should only ever be done by CCP. On the other side of that there would obviously need to be a process for disputing the flag to prevent false positives and griefing of an innocent player. This would however enable players to actively hunt bots and kill them while allowing CCP to keep those accounts active and not lose income from banning them. Heck...put bounties on them too!

And what for the others?

And why just botters? Be consistent, at this point just flag all those who got banned in the past, for any reason.




Do you believe a botting alliance actually would care to?
I mean if a "professional" botter wants to join them, they will accept him with no issue. They are about botting anyway.

What you have is brewing up the perfect system to expose to the public retribution (but didn't they get punished by CCP already?) the "rookie bots", those who tried it etc. Not the real ones to eradicate, the RMT ones.


If anything, put a public mark on the botters who engaged in RMT (the professional ones, those that hurt).

Yes, read a few pages back.

If they implement a "Scarlet Letter", I will do my best to get one.