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HazardsSoul
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1721 - 2012-03-27 12:59:20 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
What happens if the legal authorities are unhappy with CCP's discharge of there responsbilities in this

He may finally achieve his aim

And F up the game

TQ- closed

Again with your bad posting
Kill yourself already
Lenrir Andven
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1722 - 2012-03-27 12:59:34 UTC
Kara Roideater wrote:
Lenrir Andven wrote:

To twist this knife of grey further, if you really want to class cyber-bullying, then EVE online itself is a cyber-bullying game.
Think about it, you find a target, blow him up, keep tabs on him and repeatedly blow him up. By 'common sense', this is merely griefing. But to the carebears here baying for Mittani's blood, it might as well be classed as cyber-bullying as well.


How the media ends up (ab)using it doesn't really depend on what it 'is', so much as on what it can be presented as. And if they do pick it up it will certainly be presented in the context of cyber-bullying as this is a term currently much beloved by the media. In the UK at least, this rubric is not restricted to stuff involving kids but the additional dimension of it happening in a 'game' is bound to reinforce the 'think of the children!' aspect of any story.


Pretty much. I am from the UK as well and the 'cyber-bullying' craze has really been picking up pace, with all that stuff about facebook and what not. That is why when I compare what is classed as 'cyber-bullying' to what we consider as 'griefing', then the grey line is really that much more grey. I wouldn't be surprised if the UK will ban all MMO's with the way they wish to 'protect' their children from anything 'wrong.'
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1723 - 2012-03-27 12:59:49 UTC
Kara Roideater wrote:
How the media ends up (ab)using it doesn't really depend on what it 'is', so much as on what it can be presented as. And if they do pick it up it will certainly be presented in the context of cyber-bullying as this is a term currently much beloved by the media. In the UK at least, this rubric is not restricted to stuff involving kids but the additional dimension of it happening in a 'game' is bound to reinforce the 'think of the children!' aspect of any story.


The media isn't going to run with a story of a 47 year old man (according to his in-game bio) getting kind-of-sort-of-not-really bullied in a video game that nobody outside of the gaming community has even heard of. There's no press there, nothing to grab onto, especially not with The Wis himself not being too keen on reliving and rehashing that part of his life (think about why he has yet to post in any of these threads - it's probably not a fun thing for him to talk about if it's true, and if it's all made up, then yeah).

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#1724 - 2012-03-27 12:59:56 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
Professor Alphane wrote:
What happens if the legal authorities are unhappy with CCP's discharge of there responsbilities in this

He may finally achieve his aim

And F up the game

TQ- closed

Your brain is melting. Seriously. If you continue like this for much longer you might have to biomass just to get rid of the shame.


Na I'm good I can live with it

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]
Kalathia Eginald
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1725 - 2012-03-27 13:00:23 UTC
Kara Roideater wrote:
How the media ends up (ab)using it doesn't really depend on what it 'is', so much as on what it can be presented as. And if they do pick it up it will certainly be presented in the context of cyber-bullying as this is a term currently much beloved by the media. In the UK at least, this rubric is not restricted to stuff involving kids but the additional dimension of it happening in a 'game' is bound to reinforce the 'think of the children!' aspect of any story.


Like they did with the game Manhunt, I think that was the name of the game anyway. It was removed from the shelves of all stores after a boy got killed and the killer, himself a child, was said to own the game and that is what led to the murder. It turned out however that they boy who was killed owned the game and not the killer and so they reappeared on the shelf and the story died down.


To the one who said bullying, and cyber bullying mostly, concerned children. Incorrect bullying can happen to adults too. People who tend to say bullying is not worth the fuss are the ones who bullied or were not victims to bullying but bystanders.
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1726 - 2012-03-27 13:00:49 UTC
The Mittani #1 Posted: 2012.03.27 00:09

Last post Posted: 2012.03.27 12:55

Hmm, barely 13 hours and Mitty (May I call him Mitty?) spawned quite a threadnaught.

So I have to ask CCP...

When are you going to nerf Threadnaughts?

Come on everyone, lets get this Capital Post nerfed into oblivion. Its getting to many hits to the OP's post, obviously its not supposed to get hit that many times.

. . . . . .

What? Too soon ? After the titans, thought everyone was ready for another round of anti-cap nuking Roll
KFenn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1727 - 2012-03-27 13:01:18 UTC
JTK Fotheringham wrote:
I don't think you understand the issues. Mittens is an elected representative of the EVE players. He's elected chair because he has the Goon block vote, but there are still a lot of us who voted for him because we thought he'd better the game.


He wasn't acting in an official capacity though. He was there as the leader of Goonswarm, a well established alliance of well-known douchebags.

Also, 10K votes. He'd likely be chair without the Goon vote.

Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade
HazardsSoul
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1728 - 2012-03-27 13:01:22 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
Lexmana wrote:
Professor Alphane wrote:
What happens if the legal authorities are unhappy with CCP's discharge of there responsbilities in this

He may finally achieve his aim

And F up the game

TQ- closed

Your brain is melting. Seriously. If you continue like this for much longer you might have to biomass just to get rid of the shame.


Na I'm good I can live with it

Just kill yourself and biomass
for the greater good of eve
Lexmana
#1729 - 2012-03-27 13:01:36 UTC
JTK Fotheringham wrote:
It was foolish, and it has already garnered our game a lot of bad press in the gaming media. That's why he has to go. And that's nothing to do with whiny carebears whining.


You don't get it. He has to stay. He owe it to the 10k voters that elected him.
Princess Nana
Doomheim
#1730 - 2012-03-27 13:01:44 UTC
Apology aside, what is done cannot be undone. It took several days for an apology to materialise. During this time all the community received to questions regarding conduct were arrogant scoffs and derisive sneers coupled with tired old belligerent internet memes from those pro goon, desperate to erect a "smokescreen".

That is until the fanfest alcohol subsided and the gravity and magnitude of what had transpired began to fully sink in as did pro goon awareness that more damage control measures were required as the media began to sit up and smell the beans.

There is enough evidence here in the midst to consequentially suggest the player base is not being adequately represented by a party fit for office. The eve player community has been made a mockery off.
Hell's Gate
John Crichton Wormhole Institute
#1731 - 2012-03-27 13:02:03 UTC
Wow..... I think CCP may need to add a survey on the login page that asks how your feeling. The Ice miner should not of been able to log in. I really don't want RL in my sandbox. If I wanted RL I would not be playing a game. I would be taking my trash out.
Demonos Silentium
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1732 - 2012-03-27 13:02:44 UTC
Nice post Alex. i really want to believe it, but as we all know. "the mittani" is a master manipulator. How can we be sure this isnt just 1 way to manipulate crowds for you? i want to believe that you are sorry, but i dont know if i can.

secondly, in my opinion it doesnt matter even if the whole thing would have been setup. cyber bullying is a serious matter and even if it would be a joke, it should be handled with utmost care.
the best thing you could do for the community is to step down from chairman / csm alltogether and get back in the next year, but ofcourse that is a matter of opinion. Sure, most of the guys will have some hidden agendas on why they want "the mittens" off from csm, for me its just basic "i dont like bullies". i LOVE your articles, but i dislike "the goon phenom".

i guess thats all for now

yes, my grammar isn't the best but hey. i dont loose any sleep over it.
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#1733 - 2012-03-27 13:03:28 UTC
HazardsSoul wrote:
Professor Alphane wrote:
Lexmana wrote:
Professor Alphane wrote:
What happens if the legal authorities are unhappy with CCP's discharge of there responsbilities in this

He may finally achieve his aim

And F up the game

TQ- closed

Your brain is melting. Seriously. If you continue like this for much longer you might have to biomass just to get rid of the shame.


Na I'm good I can live with it

Just kill yourself and biomass
for the greater good of eve


Hello Mittani doesn't even support his own actions in this.. wake up smell the coffee, we could be sitting on a timebomb here

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]
Daviclond
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1734 - 2012-03-27 13:03:42 UTC
Princess Nana wrote:

There is enough evidence here in the midst to consequentially suggest the player base is not being adequately represented by a party fit for office. The eve player community has been made a mockery off.


The EVE community makes enough of a mockery of itself, it's as horrible - if not more so - than that of any other mainstream MMO.
Kalathia Eginald
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1735 - 2012-03-27 13:04:10 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
The media isn't going to run with a story of a 47 year old man (according to his in-game bio) getting kind-of-sort-of-not-really bullied in a video game that nobody outside of the gaming community has even heard of. There's no press there, nothing to grab onto, especially not with The Wis himself not being too keen on reliving and rehashing that part of his life (think about why he has yet to post in any of these threads - it's probably not a fun thing for him to talk about if it's true, and if it's all made up, then yeah).


You've obviously not bothered with the media when it was a "quiet news day". They can and do twist things to their own agenda. If they can make use of it they will if they can't they won't. The person this was aimed at is irrelevant if they can twist it without him.
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#1736 - 2012-03-27 13:04:13 UTC
Hell's Gate wrote:
taking my trash out.



Prehaps CCP should undertake the same

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]
Fox Amatin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1737 - 2012-03-27 13:06:23 UTC
HazardsSoul
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1738 - 2012-03-27 13:06:48 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
Hell's Gate wrote:
taking my trash out.



Prehaps CCP should undertake the same

I agree, they should get rid of your terrible, terrible posting
Kai Tel
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1739 - 2012-03-27 13:07:00 UTC
Why can't EVE ever have the "good" kind of scandal? Let's have a CSM get caught on camera with a couple of hookers in their room or something so we can shoot off on em for paying for it.
ConranAntoni
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1740 - 2012-03-27 13:07:25 UTC
Shitpost galore up in here.

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