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Daviclond
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1661 - 2012-03-27 12:30:48 UTC
Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:

Hahaha of course that is the intent! Why would ANYONE want a morally deprived man who has singlehandedly brought multiple negative publicity on EVE Online in a single day, as CSM Chair, or let alone, allow him to seat in the CSM?

I have nothing against Goons. Prior to his unexplainable moral depravity, I respected Mittani the Great. He is one of the most articulate and crowd puller CCP can ever hope for. If he didn't commit this "scandal," I would've still respected him.

I am not fueled by my own "political agenda." I do this because I love EVE Online.


MULTIPLE NEGATIVE PUBLICITY
Kalathia Eginald
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1662 - 2012-03-27 12:31:10 UTC
Solid Raiden wrote:
Real balls? It takes 5 minutes writing some meaningless words on a paper. Nothing more. Apologizing is just another way of manipulating people.

So after this, this and this, all of the sudden he is sorry and we should just accept it? Words are meaningless unless followed by actions.


I was raised that an appology takes more strength than saying nothing. However I was also raised that an appology should be just "I am sorry for ....." too many words or the word "but" and it becomes an excuse. Different people are raised diferently and even as cycnical as I am I would not be so quick to discount one.

You are however contradicting yourself. If as you say "words are meaningless unless followed by actions" then the words that started this off are also meaningles unless he did hat he said others should do. It is a logical follow through from what you have said.
Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1663 - 2012-03-27 12:31:11 UTC
Ban all npc characters from posting in the forums and revert all their posts to the main account and you will see most people actually taking a hard stance on this are people who were very opposed to mittens getting eleted or people most hurt by the titan nerf
Kalathia Eginald
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1664 - 2012-03-27 12:31:21 UTC
stavi shaushu wrote:
CCP should clearly assess how this case can (and already is) damage reputation of Eve online and its community in the eyes of the outside world if no real actions are taken against the Mittani. Choice is between CCP's reputation (profit) and a single Eve player.


What it hs done for the reputation of Eve is irrelevant. The only thing that matters in this case is the rules and any other things he has agreed to as a CSM and as a speaker at the event. Those are what CCP should look at when looking into this. If he broke the rules then he gets the appropriate sanction, if he did not then he does not get punished pure and simple.

I found what he did abhorant, by the way and as I am new I was not one of the people rushing to his defence. I said basically the same in the other thread.

Master Andrew
Hell's Revenge
#1665 - 2012-03-27 12:31:29 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
CCP have still not publicly published a statement regarding this , this seems unwise not to disavow and dissaciate themselves



you have a lot of opinions - most of them are wrong - that must be painful to live with everyday
Daviclond
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1666 - 2012-03-27 12:32:24 UTC
I don't really see anybody outside of eve caring about this issue, unless you have a personal bias against Mittens the story doesn't really have any legs.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#1667 - 2012-03-27 12:33:00 UTC
Memrox wrote:
Hold up, his wife got cancer aswell? Thats way too sad to be true.


Yup, if I remember correctly(was pretty drunk myself when I watched it, and am at work can't find the reference) his email said she had cancer, was blind, and had just left him.

As you said, too sad to be true.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Master Andrew
Hell's Revenge
#1668 - 2012-03-27 12:33:04 UTC
Master Andrew wrote:
Professor Alphane wrote:
CCP have still not publicly published a statement regarding this , this seems unwise not to disavow and dissaciate themselves



you have a lot of opinions - most of them are wrong - that must be painful to live with everyday



also i keep forgetting ( but it seems so cruel) learn to spell - your a disgrace to the eve community
Kallynda Nai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1669 - 2012-03-27 12:33:35 UTC
Memrox wrote:
Hold up, his wife got cancer aswell? Thats way too sad to be true.



Probably because it isn't true.
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#1670 - 2012-03-27 12:34:01 UTC
Master Andrew wrote:
Professor Alphane wrote:
CCP have still not publicly published a statement regarding this , this seems unwise not to disavow and dissaciate themselves



you have a lot of opinions - most of them are wrong - that must be painful to live with everyday



Perhaps I'm just masochistic like that Twisted

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]
Memrox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1671 - 2012-03-27 12:34:29 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Memrox wrote:
Hold up, his wife got cancer aswell? Thats way too sad to be true.


Yup, if I remember correctly(was pretty drunk myself when I watched it, and am at work can't find the reference) his email said she had cancer, was blind, and had just left him.

As you said, too sad to be true.


Yeh im calling bullshit on this one, thats just waaay too much sadness.
Ivana Twinkle
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1672 - 2012-03-27 12:34:33 UTC
If people want mittens to sing an apology on fireside mumble, I'm all for it! :V:
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#1673 - 2012-03-27 12:34:56 UTC
Darius Shakor wrote:
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Stepping down, though, would be better and maybe show that you can accept some consequences for your actions and carry them with you into all walks of life.



If he does not step down voluntarily, Sony, through CCP, WILL make sure it happens.

These people seem to not understand that at this point for CCP this is an INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS, FIRST....a game, second.

Sony does not think its bank account or reputation is funny at all, or this situation. I promise that is for realz and true.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#1674 - 2012-03-27 12:35:45 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Cosmos Serendipity wrote:
The main problem with the current situation is that with new laws being added to the books (At least in the U.S.) the legal ramifications have to also be taken into effect, even if goons don't see it that way, and CCP also has to take things like this into concideration. Just look up [url]http://www.violencepreventionworks.org/public/bullying_laws.page[/url] if the person is in an area that recognizes "Cyber-bullying" this could create some issues for both Mittens and CCP since he is a space ship politician for them.

I'm not bashing anyone, but people have to think about these things. I personally don't want to see anyone sued over drunk/ dumb comments.

Those laws are for the protection of Minors. The Wis was clearly not(he was married long enough for his wife to get cancer and leave him over it, remember?)


Yet 13 year olds can sign the eula, and are still not of full majority

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]
Lexmana
#1675 - 2012-03-27 12:36:01 UTC
Princess Nana wrote:
Drew Solaert wrote:
An apology is good but it's not enough.

Agreed. The line was crossed. The Chairman demonstrated he is not fit for post. One who acts on camera like a pompous, drunk, sneering court jester is not what the community needs from the figurehead that represents the interests of the playerbase. We have been badly let down and CCP must act.

You had your chances to elect someone else but since you din't take that chance you are now jumping in on this to try to force him out of his elected chair?

This thread alone represent more abuse than Mittens stupid on the spur of the moment remark in the Q&A at fanfest.

You may not like him but he has 10k voters that count on him in the CSM.
Kara Roideater
#1676 - 2012-03-27 12:36:37 UTC
Daviclond wrote:
I don't really see anybody outside of eve caring about this issue, unless you have a personal bias against Mittens the story doesn't really have any legs.


It's all over the gaming media and since cyber-bullying is a hot news issue in the UK and US at least it is the kind of thing that could easily seep into the mainstream. I really hope it doesn't though but it is the kind of thing people outside eve care about because it can be fitted into a bunch of neat little boxes and exploited in pursuit of a variety of obnoxious agendas.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#1677 - 2012-03-27 12:36:57 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Cosmos Serendipity wrote:
The main problem with the current situation is that with new laws being added to the books (At least in the U.S.) the legal ramifications have to also be taken into effect, even if goons don't see it that way, and CCP also has to take things like this into concideration. Just look up [url]http://www.violencepreventionworks.org/public/bullying_laws.page[/url] if the person is in an area that recognizes "Cyber-bullying" this could create some issues for both Mittens and CCP since he is a space ship politician for them.

I'm not bashing anyone, but people have to think about these things. I personally don't want to see anyone sued over drunk/ dumb comments.

Those laws are for the protection of Minors. The Wis was clearly not(he was married long enough for his wife to get cancer and leave him over it, remember?)


Yet 13 year olds can sign the eula, and are still not of full majority


Most Eula´s are not legal anyway...so screw them

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
EnderCapitalG
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1678 - 2012-03-27 12:37:09 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Darius Shakor wrote:
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Stepping down, though, would be better and maybe show that you can accept some consequences for your actions and carry them with you into all walks of life.



If he does not step down voluntarily, Sony, through CCP, WILL make sure it happens.

These people seem to not understand that at this point for CCP this is an INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS, FIRST....a game, second.

Sony does not think its bank account or reputation is funny at all, or this situation. I promise that is for realz and true.


When I grow up can I be as stupid as you?
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#1679 - 2012-03-27 12:37:57 UTC
Kara Roideater wrote:
Daviclond wrote:
I don't really see anybody outside of eve caring about this issue, unless you have a personal bias against Mittens the story doesn't really have any legs.


It's all over the gaming media and since cyber-bullying is a hot news issue in the UK and US at least it is the kind of thing that could easily seep into the mainstream. I really hope it doesn't though but it is the kind of thing people outside eve care about because it can be fitted into a bunch of neat little boxes and exploited in pursuit of a variety of obnoxious agendas.



I'm of a diffent mind as the authrity here CCP refuse to act upon threat to life, then they should be judged by there peers

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#1680 - 2012-03-27 12:38:25 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
You had your chances to elect someone else but since you din't take that chance you are now jumping in on this to try to force him out of his elected chair?


THIS.....is the dumbest response here. PERIOD. They VOTED for someone else....................good God, alcohol really does destroy the mind.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882