EVE General Discussion

I think it's about time to see some changes, mainly to how CCP perceives its ideal player-base and how we represent the gaming community within EVE itself.

EVE has never been known to be a game for those of feint heart and quite rightly so. The developers at CCP have actively encouraged what other game developers might regard as "unfriendly/hostile behavior" to promote the dangers of their space game. Griefing, betrayal, scams, threats & espionage are some of the major advertising methods designed to encourage a particular player in to playing the game. See some EVE trailers for evidence.

I'm not saying that these things need to be cast aside entirely as they are what make EVE, EVE. I do however think (considering recent events) that the whole EVE player mentality needs to be severely reconsidered. When this type of behavior is actively encouraged, you (CCP) draw a very fine line as to what is acceptable and what isn't in a game full of promoted griefing.

It is because of this fine line that people tend to stumble and In light of recent events I find it hard to blame any one person fully. I'm not one to usually play the blame game and If anything I could say I hold the media and our game community just as responsible for escalating this just as I blame CCP themselves and the "offender" of whom I wont bother to name.

We need to remember that at the end of the day, although in game we may be enemies, out of the game we are real people who share similar interests. I took a look at the fanfest gallery and some clips around the internet (wish I could have come!) and I will tell you what I didn't see.

I didn't see hostility, griefing, scamming and all the other "juicy" things that come with EVE, but instead I saw smiling faces, people cheering and most of all people getting along because they share something in common.

This is what needs to be promoted more than anything else if you want (if we want) EVE Online to succeed in the future. We need to make it clear that we are not just a community of internet miscreants who like to blow up one another whilst collecting space tears. Instead we need to focus on what is good for all of us and the game itself.

Before you post another comment about recent events I want you to remember that we are all players of the same game, we all have lives, families, friends and other roots which help hold us down (or at least I hope so) and for the benefit of everyone we need to start treating each other with a bit more respect.

Maybe this thread will fall on deaf ears, I don't know. I do know however that I love this game and I love the community, but man can we improve as a whole and now is a better time than any to start, especially with big titles such as DUST 514 on the horizon.

- Sasha Khaine

This game is for me, but down the path it is going it soon may not be unless we (as a playerbase) interfere

Sorry, I was indeed ambiguous, I didn't mean you personally.

I'm not flaming, I'm just realising a sad truth. Unfortunately, wishing something away wont make it so. This thread isn't about the one incident in general but more about the community as a whole and how CCP has led us up to this point. (unintentionally of course).

I pretty much disagree with everything you say OP.

I've been playing this game since I was a teenager, and as an effect of that pretty much became a scumbag in real life. I mean, if I saw you on the street, I'd probably just murder you for no good reason at all if I could get away with it.

Also I'm pretty tough and I know karate so there's nothing you'd be able to do about it.

I see what you did their, I too stand outside police stations shooting people in the face for their juicy loots. OP needs to step back from Eve as it appears to be merging with his reality. CCP never directed anybodies actions and to state that it has done so is foolish if not a bit slanderous

Oh, so you were basically telling us that we need to reevaluate the mindset that thinks "Griefing, betrayal, scams, threats & espionage" is a good thing. Well I couldn't disagree with you more. One of the things that made me stay in Eve was all the just ridiculous politics, espionage, threats, scams, betrayal, and "griefing" that went on.

Of course, I use the term a bit loosely - I tend to enjoy killing people and they tend to call it griefing. /shrug

-Liang

No you are suggesting CCPs creation is responsible for a persons action due to the type of gameplay which is slanderous. I suppose your the type of person that suspects people who play CoD are gun wielding madmen just because the video game dictated their actions since we're on generalizations

Incorrect, what I'm saying is that CCP have encouraged this type of behavior but not to the extent where it is held directly responsible for a persons action. But rather a major influence, if they had more of a zero tolerance policy to how these things occur then perhaps mittens's slide show would never have made it past the pre-screen viewing and perhaps he wouldn't have included it in the first place.

Guys you have no idea how good it feels to strangle someone and see the spark of life slowly go out in their eyes while your hands are around their neck.

Seriously CCP is like the only company that understands my desires.