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Dear pubbies: Stalking outside of the game = Not ok.

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Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-03-27 05:51:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Xython
So apparently since Dear Leader's real name is known, some pubbies have taken it upon themselves to, well, stalk him. Including threatening his freaking dog.

The hell?

Seriously. This is beyond the pale, even for you NPC corp cowards. Keep your little impotent rage in game where it belongs, using the fact that Mittani's real name is known to stalk and harass him and his family is just going too far.

We get it, you don't like Goons. Scaring a man's family and threatening an innocent animal? For shame.
Minabunny
Bogus Brothers Corporation
#2 - 2012-03-27 05:56:54 UTC
Sounds like he should quit for his family sake then.

Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-03-27 05:58:04 UTC
Minabunny wrote:
Sounds like he should quit for his family sake then.

^^ Hypocrisy here ^^
Haulin Aussie
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-03-27 06:00:00 UTC
Xython wrote:
THIS THREAD IS GOING PLACES

Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-03-27 06:00:58 UTC
Haulin Aussie wrote:
Xython wrote:
THIS THREAD IS GOING PLACES



DAMN SKIPPY!

In my defense, I think I've drunk more than Dear Leader did at Fanfest. :D
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-03-27 06:01:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Markus Reese
Xython wrote:
Seriously. This is beyond the pale, even for you cowards. Keep your little impotent rage in game where it belongs, using the fact that Mittani's real name is known to stalk and harass him and his family is just going too far.

We get it, you don't like Goons. Scaring a man's family and threatening an innocent animal? For shame.


If true, I agree since that is what the issue about, as such if true all those against Mittani doing such would be hypocrites of a high order. We should leave it to discussions of CCP, the person to whom the comments were directed and the Mittani. Personally, I expect repurcussions to come of this, because in the end there is TOS violation and there was a risk of causing a rl issue. However seriously, harassing somebody and their family, is even worse.

However I hope that goons understand that while eve is a game, it is a social game. Many people game to chill or interact with others. Many people put serious money or time into eve as a hobby. There are people who have tough lives and sometimes a vid game is the only way to chill. Myself, that is how I got into eve, and I learned that griefing etc was part of it. However directly targeting or encouraging grief, etc of a player just to be a player, call it how you will, that can have consequences. Is the reason of the EULA and ToS. Video game, soccer game, chess game. the psychological investment and communication is all the same in the end because for some, eve is a hobby.

Edit: Forgot the point I was going to

essentially eve is along way from the early pvp focused game. Even Dust is going to have it's pve and co-op portion they have said. Look at the star map and how much of eve is highsec, debate like we might, but carebears and highsec is a huge part of eve. Always gotta consider that.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.

Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#7 - 2012-03-27 06:03:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Roime
I obviously don't approve taking things out to RL, but on Earth you do reap what you sow

~ deal with it ~

.

Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2012-03-27 06:04:02 UTC
Xython wrote:
So apparently since Dear Leader's real name is known, some pubbies have taken it upon themselves to, well, stalk him. Including threatening his freaking dog.

The hell?

Seriously. This is beyond the pale, even for you NPC corp cowards. Keep your little impotent rage in game where it belongs, using the fact that Mittani's real name is known to stalk and harass him and his family is just going too far.

We get it, you don't like Goons. Scaring a man's family and threatening an innocent animal? For shame.


You thought the 'moral highground' people actually gave a **** about The Wis in the first place? They just wanted Mittani gone. Now that they've been successful they can come back down and continue wallowing in the exact same **** they were criticizing.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP

Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-03-27 06:08:09 UTC
Two thoughts:

1. Taking a shot every time I saw an obvious NPC Sockpuppet Alt parrot the "Goons are meanie poopieheads" line was probably not very good for my liver.

b. The fact that people can't quite figure out there's a diff between "Mittani" and "The guy playing EVE who call shimself Mittani" is really kinda sad.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-03-27 06:13:07 UTC
Xython wrote:
Two thoughts:

1. Taking a shot every time I saw an obvious NPC Sockpuppet Alt parrot the "Goons are meanie poopieheads" line was probably not very good for my liver.

b. The fact that people can't quite figure out there's a diff between "Mittani" and "The guy playing EVE who call shimself Mittani" is really kinda sad.


I just glanced at the Mittani twitter, buddy said he had commented there about the thing, I noticed most of the people are attacking the deal with it comment to start. Reading though, it was because he thought it was just the slide and had forgotten about the comments.

Quote:
The Mittani‏@TheMittani



Close

@theiggep I didn't remember what id said, so assumed people were just mad about slides. P horrified now that I see how bad I actually was


The unfortunate part is Mittani has done great things for eve as CSM.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.

Princess Bride
SharkNado
#11 - 2012-03-27 06:15:01 UTC
Xython wrote:
Two thoughts:

1. Taking a shot every time I saw an obvious NPC Sockpuppet Alt parrot the "Goons are meanie poopieheads" line was probably not very good for my liver.

b. The fact that people can't quite figure out there's a diff between "Mittani" and "The guy playing EVE who call shimself Mittani" is really kinda sad.


Well, let's see...

The fact that "The guy playing EVE who calls himself Mittani" is the one who said what he said...streaming live...at Fan Fest... live, and not in game kinda blurs the lines. Or did TBP The Mittani lapse into a fit of roleplaying due to alcohol poisoning and shift into his online persona?

Also, victimizing the bully. Awesome tactics.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/

weat bix
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-03-27 06:16:05 UTC
Xython wrote:
So apparently since Dear Leader's real name is known, some pubbies have taken it upon themselves to, well, stalk him. Including threatening his freaking dog.

The hell?

Seriously. This is beyond the pale, even for you NPC corp cowards. Keep your little impotent rage in game where it belongs, using the fact that Mittani's real name is known to stalk and harass him and his family is just going too far.

We get it, you don't like Goons. Scaring a man's family and threatening an innocent animal? For shame.


OK and we are meant to just accept this as truth. Or should we think of it as just another attempt to have people feel sorry for him ?
Pedro Chang
Scorpus Legion
#13 - 2012-03-27 06:19:22 UTC
Xython wrote:
So apparently since Dear Leader's real name is known, some pubbies have taken it upon themselves to, well, stalk him. Including threatening his freaking dog.

The hell?

Seriously. This is beyond the pale, even for you NPC corp cowards. Keep your little impotent rage in game where it belongs, using the fact that Mittani's real name is known to stalk and harass him and his family is just going too far.

We get it, you don't like Goons. Scaring a man's family and threatening an innocent animal? For shame.

I'm sure your trolling, but I really hope this isn't true.
Tetragammatron Prime
Pink Sockers
#14 - 2012-03-27 06:19:46 UTC
What did you expect when he commited such henious hate crimes? He's is lucky he doesn't have a $10k bounty on his head like that mexican that shot the black dude with skittles.
Ivana Twinkle
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-03-27 06:20:29 UTC
I dont know what I would do if i was stalked by 13yr olds from another continent :smith:
Amity Lane
Hek Mining Association
#16 - 2012-03-27 06:29:05 UTC
Given the amount of lying, propaganda, ulterior motives, conspiracy accusations, etc. regarding this whole event, what's to say this claim of RL harassment isn't just an attempt to garner sympathy from the playerbase?

Not that I genuinely think it is, but after you've cried wolf a few times...
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-03-27 06:33:23 UTC
okay those acting out of game are simply wrong and are breaking the local laws not to mention the EULA.

Those people are using the oh I am fighting for the victim excuse because he can't defend him self: I have a cult for you to join,
You will be easy to convert!



Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships

Renturu
In Glorium et Decorum
#18 - 2012-03-27 06:40:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Renturu
Though I didn't agree with what Alex said IRL as it did cross that fine line of Role Playing (Rule 4 and as a means to violate Rules 2 & 3), He did apologize IRL and In game. I really find it appalling that players calling for his resignation would even stoop to the level (soberly) that Alex did when drunk and threaten him IRL. That is just disgusting.

I really hope Alex recovers and isn't disheartened from the game. His In game persona added to the EvE experience that CCP designed this game for. Hope you don't leave Alex.

Just my 2 p

Edit: No one should at ANY time, sober or drunk (good luck with that), purvey these attitudes outside of game. Just wrong for anyone that can call themselves human.

By the orders of PlunderBunny: ☻/ /▌ / \ This is Bob, post him into your forum sig and help him conquer the forums.

Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-03-27 06:44:29 UTC
Amity Lane wrote:
Given the amount of lying, propaganda, ulterior motives, conspiracy accusations, etc. regarding this whole event, what's to say this claim of RL harassment isn't just an attempt to garner sympathy from the playerbase?

Not that I genuinely think it is, but after you've cried wolf a few times...


Someone who is confirmed to know Mittani IRL mentioned it offhand on another forum, specifically the threats towards the family dog.

I prob shouldn't have discussed it without checking if it was ok, but the idea of someone taking this crap outside of the game... ******* crazy.

And going after a pet? That's just beyond the pale. Is your ice miner bot accoutn really worth that much?
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#20 - 2012-03-27 06:44:31 UTC
Renturu wrote:
Though I didn't agree with what Alex said IRL as it did cross that fine line of Role Playing (Rule 4 and as a means to violate Rules 2 & 3), He did apologize IRL and In game. I really find it appalling that players calling for his resignation would even stoop to the level (soberly) that Alex did when drunk and threaten him IRL. That is just disgusting.

I really hope Alex recovers and isn't disheartened from the game. His In game persona added to the EvE experience that CCP designed this game for. Hope you don't leave Alex.

Just my 2 p


They probably got caught by the EvE is REAL meme.
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