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Mittani - Resignation. Vote Yes or No. Simple.

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Giuliano Verti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-03-27 00:10:25 UTC
Yes
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-03-27 00:40:27 UTC
no, eve needs the Mittens.

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Emiko Luan
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-03-27 00:41:32 UTC
nope.avi

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Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#24 - 2012-03-27 00:44:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Adriel Malakai
No. The reality of the situation is that the player named, The Wis iirc, should quit eve and seek professional help if he's considering suicide because he got ganked in a video game.

Everyone calling for The Mittani's resignation/ban is clearly out for political gain by his removal, and don't actually give a **** about The Wis. If people actually gave a damn about the miner, they'd be focusing on helping the guy to move on and improve his life, not calling for blood.

Stop being hypocrites.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#25 - 2012-03-27 00:48:03 UTC
Adriel Malakai wrote:
No. The reality of the situation is that the player named, The Wis iirc, should quit eve and seek professional help if he's considering suicide because he got ganked in a video game.

Everyone calling for The Mittani's resignation/ban is clearly out for political gain by his removal, and don't actually give a **** about The Wis. If people actually gave a damn about the miner, they'd be focusing on helping the guy to move on and improve his life, not calling for blood.

Stop being hypocrites.


"It's the victims fault for being bullied."

Hmmm... where have I seen that before?
~major news reporting on suicides ~
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-03-27 00:48:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Fredfredbug4
I'd say no, CSM time is going to be pretty boring if the Mitanni isn't around to cause controversy.

Everyone makes mistakes. What the Mittani did shouldn't be acceptable but it shouldn't be tolerated. I personally feel that he needs to make a personal face to face apology. It's really hard to tell how sincere he is from text, but for someone who we would never expect to apologize to even take the time to write an apology letter there has to be some legitimacy to it.

Although this all just seemed to be The Mitanni's opponents jumping on a chance to pick him apart. If someone with much less controversy said what he said it wouldn't gain much attention.

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KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2012-03-27 00:50:11 UTC
Re-hold CSM elections, including mittani on the ballot. We'll see if the player base still wants him to represent us.

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Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#28 - 2012-03-27 00:56:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Adriel Malakai
Ammzi wrote:
Adriel Malakai wrote:
No. The reality of the situation is that the player named, The Wis iirc, should quit eve and seek professional help if he's considering suicide because he got ganked in a video game.

Everyone calling for The Mittani's resignation/ban is clearly out for political gain by his removal, and don't actually give a **** about The Wis. If people actually gave a damn about the miner, they'd be focusing on helping the guy to move on and improve his life, not calling for blood.

Stop being hypocrites.


"It's the victims fault for being bullied."

Hmmm... where have I seen that before?
~major news reporting on suicides ~


Nice spin work - you clearly tried hard.

The point is that this is EVE, where people are dicks, douchebags, and go out of their way to mess your **** up. It is advertised as being 'hard-core' and gritty. If you come here expecting different, then it is your fault. If you get so attached to a video game that you go into depression because you lost a ship, then you should step back. Sure, calling for people to gank him until he kills himself is pretty douchey, but was clearly put in jest.

Who actually believes that someone who says they'll kill themselves over a game over the internet is being serious? Very few. Why? Because people get pissed off and say stupid ****. This is the same, in my mind, as someone getting pissed and telling me they'll kill me, or my family, because I blew up their Rattlesnake (actually happened). I didn't take this seriously because it was some guy who was angry that he lost tons of ISK he worked his ass off for, and it was exceedingly unlikely he was going to hunt me down and kill me.

The Mittani has clearly stated his regret for making a statement that has been blown *way* out of proportion by people who have much to gain by his removal from the CSM and/or the game. Granted, his presentation was terrible, but that was more because it wasn't funny when it tried to be. Either way, maybe you should try actually helping out The Wis, rather than standing here shouting, "RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" because you don't like The Mittani and are jumping at the chance to knock him down a peg.
Mireidor
Mare Crisium Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#29 - 2012-03-27 01:02:07 UTC
The person above me has ruined this thread by making a tl;dr post.

Having met The Mittani at Fanfest and having seen his alliance panel presentation, I disapprove of resignations and find that next year the alliance panel should include more carebear tears and suicide threats.

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SpaceSquirrels
#30 - 2012-03-27 01:15:01 UTC  |  Edited by: SpaceSquirrels
Nah... Just need to own up to your mistakes. Apologize man to man really.

Picking on a depressed person kinda like making fun of someone handicapped... I mean not a whole lot of sport in it...especially if they're not there to defend them self or punch you in the face...
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-03-27 01:15:58 UTC
No checkbox no vote.
Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#32 - 2012-03-27 01:17:10 UTC
No, an apology is satisfactory to me. And resigning only gives validity to the ongoing witch hunt to depose The Mittani and get him banned for a foolish mistake.

Let CCP decide what punishment, if any beyond making a public statement, is warranted.

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Kilylol
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-03-27 01:31:17 UTC
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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#34 - 2012-03-27 01:32:31 UTC
No. CSM needs him more than ever before, CSM6 did a great job and CSM7 is going to continue that.

As far as I am concerned, he doesn't owe anyone an apology because people do stupid things and say stupid things all the time regardless if they are drunk or not.

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OfBalance
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-03-27 01:33:12 UTC  |  Edited by: OfBalance
Where's the option for kicking the rest of the CSM and nominating him Dictator for life?

ED: I could totally get behind kicking D3 as a scapegoat.
Endeavour Starfleet
#36 - 2012-03-27 01:34:17 UTC
No, He should not resign.

Was the presentation in rather poor taste? Yes, but that is it.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#37 - 2012-03-27 01:37:02 UTC
Sadly, yes.

I think the work he did in the CSM 6 has given the CSM 7 the structure and model to succeed without him. If he stays it sends the players the wrong message about CSM accountability and the public the wrong message about the nature of Eve.

The benefits of him staying are far outweighed by the damage of him remaining.

Issler
Frying Doom
#38 - 2012-03-27 01:38:59 UTC
I would have to say Yes.

This is going Viral and if its not fixed to not just our but now the gaming media's satisfaction this could seriously blow up in CCP's face.

I thought the apology was nice and factual, hell we have all been drunk as hell and done things, biggest problem now is how everyone else now views this. Last year The Mittani got stuck in the middle of "The Summer of Rage", this year he could be the cause.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Kethry Avenger
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2012-03-27 01:39:05 UTC
No.

He should apologize, which it looks like he did. He should return the scammed money from earlier and replace the loses his alliance caused. His alliance should offer the individual real protection for the month or so it takes this to blow over.

Humans do dumb things and make mistakes, one really stupid moment shouldn't invalidate the other good work he has done. If you don't want him as chair next year vote for someone else.

Oh and he should probably lay of the trolling on the forums for a while.
Aki Sindari
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-03-27 01:41:40 UTC
Isn't one of the EVE mantras actions have consequences?

I guess it is only a cold hard universe if you aren't a Goon.