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Screw Disney - But watch John Carter anyway
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Shalia Ripper
#1 - 2012-03-26 00:01:46 UTC
Very good movie, not deserving of the bad rap it is getting.. The critics that have panned it have missed the point entirely. And Disney's trailers sucks. This one is much better.

http://youtu.be/OzPVYy7LHIo

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Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-03-26 00:27:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Jada Maroo
I plan to. I actually think this movie looks great. I like the Robert Howard-style pulp fiction feel the trailers give off. Loin cloths and laser guns are great together - Frazetta forever! Big smile
stoicfaux
#3 - 2012-03-26 01:42:44 UTC
I pretty much lost interest in the movie once I saw the super-jumping silliness in the TV trailers. However, having read the plot synopsis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carter_(film)) I have to say that the movie does sound interesting. At least now I know where the term Barsoom came from.

Disney bought Pixar because Disney's films were losing their magic. Guess it's time for them to buy a better marketing company as well. Ugh

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ivar R'dhak
Deus est Mechanicus
#4 - 2012-03-26 07:18:52 UTC  |  Edited by: ivar R'dhak
Looks like Fireflies "Serenity" all over again.
Only with even more ineffective marketing and a ridiculously expensive movie.

The damn 3D isn´t helping one bit either. Sad to say but this one´s another candidate for my bargain bin DVD collection and most likely the only glimpse of Barsoom we´ll get.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#5 - 2012-03-26 13:30:34 UTC
It's an excellent movie that doesn't do a good enough job of telling the audience that it's based on a story written a hundred years ago. Too many people come away from it saying "that can't be Mars because we'd have seen that stuff blah blah blah." They don't get that the story was written before we knew all that. It's like saying Clash of the Titans is bad because there aren't any gods on top of Mount Olympus.

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Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-03-26 13:30:48 UTC
Is the movie pretty faithful to the Edgar Rice Burroughs books? Not that I've read them.... P Just hate it when they take a classic and Hollywoodize it. (Examples: Schwarzenegger Conan movies, Starship Troopers)
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#7 - 2012-03-26 13:47:27 UTC
One quote I read said something akin to: "...the film is highly derivative, as it appears to be trying to copy from so many other films of the same genre. What is interesting to realize is that all other films of the same genre owe their roots to the works of Edgar Rice Burroughs, the creator of the Barsoom series..."

One might say, therefore, that the measure of its success might be attributed to how unsuccessful it is. As without Edgar Rice Burroughs, you would not have the bulk of great films that we do today.

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God's Apples
Wilderness
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#8 - 2012-03-26 23:35:30 UTC
The real issue of the movie was it seemed to have 3 separate plot structures and it failed to interweave them making have the movie not relate to the other. Also about 45 minutes of the movie could be cut off.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2012-03-27 13:14:50 UTC
The love story seems tacked on but otherwise its a good film.
Shalia Ripper
#10 - 2012-03-27 13:57:15 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
The love story seems tacked on but otherwise its a good film.



Thats funny because the love story was one of the least unchanged parts of the original story. Granted, in Princess of Mars, it was more of the early turn of the century semi-helpless swooning female feel that was common then. She wasn't nearly as kick ass as the character in the movie.

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Whitehound
#11 - 2012-03-27 14:00:39 UTC
It is an expensive looking, but otherwise trashy movie. It is a mix of Dune, Star Wars, Thor, Cowboys&Aliens and some other Sci-Fi movies. Nothing new or surprising or outstanding. Nor is the acting any good.

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Shalia Ripper
#12 - 2012-03-27 17:07:07 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
It is an expensive looking, but otherwise trashy movie. It is a mix of Dune, Star Wars, Thor, Cowboys&Aliens and some other Sci-Fi movies. Nothing new or surprising or outstanding. Nor is the acting any good.


And it's source material predates or inspired pretty much everything you referenced. The original story was published in 1917.

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Whitehound
#13 - 2012-03-27 19:40:03 UTC
Shalia Ripper wrote:
And it's source material predates or inspired pretty much everything you referenced. The original story was published in 1917.

And this is what happens when you come too late. It becomes trash.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2012-03-27 19:41:56 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
Shalia Ripper wrote:
And it's source material predates or inspired pretty much everything you referenced. The original story was published in 1917.

And this is what happens when you come too late. It becomes trash.


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Whitehound
#15 - 2012-03-27 19:44:33 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
No, trash is the new ghost rider.

Yeah, that, too. But the acting got a little better. Just a little. Even Nicolas Cage cannot avoid picking up some wisdom as he turns older and older. Overall does he still suck.

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Saint Lazarus
Spiorad ag fanaiocht
#16 - 2012-03-29 03:50:39 UTC
I seen trailer for this in cinema and thought it looked DREADFUL.

Disney utterly suck at sellin themselves if its a half decent flick.........still not paying to go see it now though
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-03-29 08:06:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Diesel47
Whitehound wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
No, trash is the new ghost rider.

Yeah, that, too. But the acting got a little better. Just a little. Even Nicolas Cage cannot avoid picking up some wisdom as he turns older and older. Overall does he still suck.


Niclas Cage isn't a bad actor...

He just takes all the crappy scripts for crappy movies so he can make extra buck to fund his gambling addiction.

An actor is only as good as his script.



And I could of made a better trailer for John Carter.... The one in the theaters was horrible.
ivar R'dhak
Deus est Mechanicus
#18 - 2012-03-29 09:07:19 UTC  |  Edited by: ivar R'dhak
Shalia Ripper wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
The love story seems tacked on but otherwise its a good film.



Thats funny because the love story was one of the least unchanged parts of the original story. Granted, in Princess of Mars, it was more of the early turn of the century semi-helpless swooning female feel that was common then. She wasn't nearly as kick ass as the character in the movie.

Which means it´s the most changed part then.

I for one can´t stand these "kick-ass" hero biotches anymore that look pretty and are so thin that a light breeze blows them over.
Yet are able to prevail in fights against men(or creatures) whose left leg has more muscles than her whole upper body.

And sorry, but nobody is watching hero movies to get a trash literature history lesson. However accurate.
The makers should´ve known that and come up with something more clever than the standard predictable action fare. Especially with this whole "Hunger Games" hysteria on the horizon.
Decaneos
Casalt Corp
CAStabouts
#19 - 2012-03-29 10:34:33 UTC
the main problem it think with john carter(tho i did like it) seems to be the inability of ppl to turn off there logic brains and forget the fact we have seen what mars is like, if your able to do that then the movie is enjoyable and then ending is just great!
ivar R'dhak
Deus est Mechanicus
#20 - 2012-03-30 07:57:19 UTC
decaneos wrote:
ppl to turn off there logic brains and forget the fact we have seen what mars is like,

This is why I´m most happy that NASA is dead(or very well on it´s way).
That damn rover and his crappy webcam managed to singlehandedly destroy the last shreds of wonder people may have held for exploring other planets.

No funds - no chance to eff up and hinder human space travel even more.
Good riddance. X
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